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post #5476 of 10431
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Originally Posted by moriez View Post
 

I can get my hands on the older type (2004 ish?) DT 880. Can anyone here confirm going from the photo that the impedance is 250 and if/how this older type sounds different compared to the more recent badges?

 

All I can say for sure is that they were never intended to be different. The 2005 refresh was supposed to unify the aesthetics of the Premium DT Beyers, as well as introduce the three different impedance versions of each (not to mention it was the introduction of the DT880 Pro). It was not supposed to modify the sound signature. That said, I've read opinions all over the map over which one, if any, is better. The main theme was that the differences, if they exist at all, are slight. HeadRoom claims that the upper bass and lower mids on the 2005 version were filled in a little more over the 2003 version. I've come across a thread somewhere on here that more of less agreed with that. I've also read reports that the treble might have been toned down slightly in the 2005 version. I seem to remember one member absolutely hating the 2005 version, saying it sounded smoothed over and bloated, but his experience seems to be far outside the norm. Either he got a bum unit, or else he was just very sensitive to whatever was different between the 2005 unit he tried and his personal 2003 unit (we can't discount that his own 2003 pair was somehow significantly different from the others of its vintage, after all).

 

I've noticed that the earlier version doesn't come up as often. The 2005 version must have sold far more units--given that it has a huge advantage in production duration, that probably makes sense.

post #5477 of 10431

Hey wow Argyris, that's solid words there. Might just push me over the edge and grab them.

 

Edit: and look what's here. A classified with all the right info.


Edited by moriez - 11/27/13 at 1:56pm
post #5478 of 10431

I had a version of the DT880 years ago that I found unbearably bright. They were very neutral, but bright. When I reduced the treble about 8db  (I was using an integrated amp) I found they sounded rather good, in fact quite like the HD650 I had at the time. I cursed Beyer for making them so bright when everything else about them seemed right, and sold them. It was because of this memory that I decided to try them again, and now have the Pro. The brightess is still there with the Pro but to nothing like the same extent--unless of course my ears have greatly deteriorated in the meantime. Or maybe my auditory memory is faulty, though I don't think so. I do remember dropping the treble control to about 8 O'Clock and finding the sound just right; if I did that to my current phones it would be a muted mess. In fact with these phones I often listen flat (using a modern Marantz stereo receiver). How to reconcile these two impressions? I can't really; it's one of those mysteries of auditioning over long periods. I just thought it might be relevant to the debate over possible differences between the old and new 880s.  

post #5479 of 10431

I would say it's very unlikely that your impressions were that far off on your earlier pair, at least in regards to your preferences at the time. I'm sure you knew what you liked and what you didn't. Any or all of a lot of variables might be in play (e.g. different preferences now, hearing deterioration, not quite remembering the sound over time, unintentional unit variation, intentional tuning tweaking on Beyer's part).

 

It's my thinking that, simply from a marketing perspective, if Beyer did tweak the sound for later versions they wouldn't have wanted to say anything about it. They were shooting for best in the world at that time, and if they all of a sudden came out and said "Well, we've improved them (in response to your complaints, no less!), and now they're the best in the world!", that wouldn't have exactly inspired confidence going forward.

 

I think the only way any of this can be tested is to assemble as many DT880s together as possible, noting when (roughly) they were manufactured, and having lots of people compare them. I doubt anybody would be willing to spend this much effort on an aging former flagship, though, so we might never know.

post #5480 of 10431

Has anyone tried the 880's with the vali? I need a budget amp and dac that synergizes well with these.

post #5481 of 10431

I am looking at getting the DT880 and am wondering if either the e11 alone or a combo of the e11 and audioquest dragonfly could sufficiently power them?

post #5482 of 10431

Really disappointed at the lack of the sales for the 535's I have wanted to try them out forever but 20% off just isn't good enough.

post #5483 of 10431

Greedily grabbed that old 880! Will be content if it's anything like the newer 880 600Ω.

post #5484 of 10431
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Originally Posted by HaVoC-28 View Post

The modern ones rated at 600 ohms the others 2005 edition don't have any mark .

The modern ones all have the impedance printed on the headphone 1/8" phone plug whether they are 32 or 250 or 600 Ohm.
post #5485 of 10431
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Originally Posted by alterndog View Post

I am looking at getting the DT880 and am wondering if either the e11 alone or a combo of the e11 and audioquest dragonfly could sufficiently power them?

They will drive the 32 Ohm version.
post #5486 of 10431
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Originally Posted by Chris J View Post


The modern ones all have the impedance printed on the headphone 1/8" phone plug whether they are 32 or 250 or 600 Ohm.

 

No . Peraphs the 32 and 600 ohm have a mark , but the 250 ohms don't have anything on the plug at least , the pro , and the current 250 ohms edition that i am using . It's not an old unite as there is A20 headphone amp  advertising on the Box . My gone 600 ohms had the mark .

 

But my also gone DT-770 Pro 32 ohms didn't have anything , my current DT-770 250 pro neither .

 

You have a DT-880 - 600 but have you ever had the others varients ? Or any information that lead you to think that their is a mark on all DT-880 jack plug ?


Edited by HaVoC-28 - 11/28/13 at 5:01am
post #5487 of 10431

Just an FYI: Amazon is having a Black Friday sale on these starting in 11 hours 15 minutes from now. They are the 600 ohm ones, and are marked at $300 now (so will come off that price). We won't know what the price is until the sale starts.

post #5488 of 10431
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Originally Posted by moriez View Post
 

Greedily grabbed that old 880! Will be content if it's anything like the newer 880 600Ω.

Interested to hear your impressions. I've heard both ways that the 880 600 is better and vice versa for the latter so I think its some mumbo jumbo or unit to unit variation.

post #5489 of 10431
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Originally Posted by HaVoC-28 View Post

 

No . Peraphs the 32 and 600 ohm have a mark , but the 250 ohms don't have anything on the plug at least , the pro , and the current 250 ohms edition that i am using . It's not an old unite as there is A20 headphone amp  advertising on the Box . My gone 600 ohms had the mark .

 

But my also gone DT-770 Pro 32 ohms didn't have anything , my current DT-770 250 pro neither .

 

You have a DT-880 - 600 but have you ever had the others varients ? Or any information that lead you to think that their is a mark on all DT-880 jack plug ?

 



The 32 Ohm version I saw and all the posts I've seen on Head Fi that back my claim up.
Maybe the Pro doesn't.

I've never seen every single DT880 out there so.........................
post #5490 of 10431
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Originally Posted by wahsmoh View Post

Interested to hear your impressions. I've heard both ways that the 880 600 is better and vice versa for the latter so I think its some mumbo jumbo or unit to unit variation.

 



FWIW,
I've tried my 600 Ohm version next to a 32 Ohm version, almost impossible to tell them apart, the 32 Ohm version MAY have had slightly coarser treble, but that was it.
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