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Originally Posted by xkonfuzed View Post

I never found the DT880's to have too much bass. Actually, I never found any headphone to have too much bass for me. But the bass quality on the DT880's is fantastic.


I agree with you on this. The texture of the bass allows you to hear what note the bass player is hitting or the type of drum from an 808 kick. Compared to my HD280 there's no comparison in the quality of bass. the HD280 has the "one note" whump whump with reverberations that give you the presence of an open subwoofer. The DT880s give you the detail and texture of instruments while with EDM they sound more like a closed subwoofer. I have been surprised by their ability to extend really low into the sub bass region that is slightly rounded off on the very bottom. Sometimes I turn around to check if my 12 inch subwoofer is plugged in then find out it was just the DT880 confusing me

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Originally Posted by HeretixAevum View Post

It has absolutely nothing to do with quality control. It's incredibly easy to see how somebody would describe the DT880 (or any other headphone with neutral bass) as being bass light. Imagine you come from the Beats, V-Moda or even some of the Ultrasone line. If you're entirely accustomed to boosted bass then yes, the DT880 will definitely sound bass light. It's a matter of what the individual has to reference with from their experience. 

Alternately, somebody could also describe the bass as being strong. If they came from apple ear buds, and maybe owned a Grado SR60i as a beginner can, then tried a DT880 they probably wouldn't feel the bass was light, because the bass extension and authority would be so much better than their other headphones. 
Bingo!
I started with the 'Sones after some mediocre Sony's, so this does indeed make sense. I had a friend over who has a pair of those JVC HA-5X Exxxtreme Bass whatever's to hear the LCD 3's... Well the first thing out of his mouth was "These things have no Bass" exactly as described, all in your point of reference.

So I called him a heathen, removed the LCD's from his head and promptly told him to get out...

Not really... but the audition was over as well since he wouldn't shut up long enough to listen. Probably if I would have had some Beetz for him to try you would have had to pry them off his head.
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When I say QC I'm talking about the fact that I've compared individual dt880 sets side by side, in the same room, from the same amps, using the same tunes and they are not the same. I'm not comparing them to beats or hd600s.

 

That being said, I think many headphones are too heavy on the bass.  

The 880s seem to be very close to flat which is what I wanted. Maximum clarity, as close as I can get to what the music sounded like when it was being recorded. The dt880s are a work of art in my opinion. I love mine.

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Originally Posted by jshaffe View Post
 

When I say QC I'm talking about the fact that I've compared individual dt880 sets side by side, in the same room, from the same amps, using the same tunes and they are not the same.

 

The same goes for any headphone at any price.

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Originally Posted by kman1211 View Post


I found the DT 880 on the bright side, I found it brighter than the Q701, although I did find the Q701 a bit bright, I think it depends on how sensitive you are to the treble region the headphone emphasizes, I'm quite sensitive to treble as a whole. I personally call the DT 880 on the bright side of neutral, the 8-10khz spike prevents the headphone from being truly neutral to my ears, it does have a smooth treble thankfully. It's not outright bright like the HD 800 was for me though.

I never found the bass lacking on the DT 880 and the mids are nice on tubes, just the upper treble a bit too emphasized.

Same here i just got my Q701 and the DT 880 is brither but it's a lot smoother than Q in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Graphicism View Post
 

 

The same goes for any headphone at any price.

 

+1

 

Just check out the multiple LCD-2s, LCD-3s, and SR-009s measured at IF--every one is subtly different. And the multiple Beyer T1 measurements over at the Pirate Bay CS--those units are not so subtly different.

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Originally Posted by Argyris View Post
 

 

+1

 

Just check out the multiple LCD-2s, LCD-3s, and SR-009s measured at IF--every one is subtly different. And the multiple Beyer T1 measurements over at the Pirate Bay CS--those units are not so subtly different.

 

Sometime I want to make it to a listening party. the T1s are on my sexy headphone list to hear in real life.

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Originally Posted by jshaffe View Post
 

 

Sometime I want to make it to a listening party. the T1s are on my sexy headphone list to hear in real life.

iirc, the T1's and dt880 have a very similar sound signature, at the least the most similar of any other headphones, except that the T1 just has an overall more refined sound and more bass extension?

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Originally Posted by ethanc View Post
 

iirc, the T1's and dt880 have a very similar sound signature, at the least the most similar of any other headphones, except that the T1 just has an overall more refined sound and more bass extension?

 

Have you heard them both to compare? I've always had a slight curiosity about the T1, though most of the impressions I've read seem to be along the lines of what you've said, so I've never felt any great urgency to hear a pair at any cost.

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Originally Posted by Argyris View Post
 

 

Have you heard them both to compare? I've always had a slight curiosity about the T1, though most of the impressions I've read seem to be along the lines of what you've said, so I've never felt any great urgency to hear a pair at any cost.

heard them for a few minutes from my friend, although he was only using an o2+odac at that time, so I don't think the maximum potential of the T1's were brought out. However, from the limited listening experience I had, without a doubt the dt880 is the closest sound signature wise to the T1's out of the entire Beyerdynamic DT line of headphones, and most likely even beyond the DT line. Some may argue that the T1's may slightly be less brighter on the top end, but extend just as far, and extend deeper in the bass. And also, there was a bit more transparency and more soundstage with the T1's, which is to be expected as Beyer deliberately didn't open up the DT880's completely. Soundstage is probably along the lines of the 990's.

 

Also, seal isn't THAT important with open back headphones correct? I mean, the difference in seal between wearing thicker framed glasses versus no glasses. I experienced a DRASTIC difference in the k550's, to the point where it sounded literally like a tin can. Haven't experienced that so far with the dt880's, they sound pretty much the same either way.


Edited by ethanc - 11/21/13 at 5:49pm
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From what I understand the O2 should drive the T1s just fine. It should drive just about any dynamic headphone just fine. I think that was one of the points of its design.
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Originally Posted by ethanc View Post
 
And also, there was a bit more transparency and more soundstage with the T1's, which is to be expected as Beyer deliberately didn't open up the DT880's completely.

 

Explanation please.

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Originally Posted by pp312 View Post
 

 

Explanation please.


I think what he is saying that because the DT 880 is only semi-open, it's missing the last bit of transparency the driver is capable of producing. Although when you fully open up the DT 880, it basically becomes the DT 990, which has too much bass to be neutral and slightly more treble than the DT 880. Although if you somehow manage to make the DT 990 neutral, it would be more transparent and refined than the DT 880 due to a less restricted driver.

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Originally Posted by Tequilasunriser View Post

From what I understand the O2 should drive the T1s just fine. It should drive just about any dynamic headphone just fine. I think that was one of the points of its design.I

I wish I had a set of T1s as I've read from experienced users that the Auditor drives them exceptionally well due to it's very strong and consistent ability to swing voltage as needed, which enables very tight control of the drivers. I know with my 880s the pairing was really nice, but the lack of sensitivity in the 880s cost me volume level which I really wanted. I've been told that the T1s get much louder with the Auditor as they are more sensitive. Would love to try an O2.

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Do any of you own a Audio-gd NFB-15.32 or something close to that? I have the 880/250 Pro. I'm planning either buy a cheap amp+dac like fiio e17, vali/modi or get the NFB-15.32. It's $235+shipping = $270, around ~$50 over my budget, but I'll use it for at least 2 years before upgrading. I'm just wondering if it's worth an extra $50. How is the Audio-gd's build quality and does it pair well with the dt880? I also want to use it with IEMs.

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