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post #5236 of 8065
IMO they feel good in the hand and are good to look at, but once they're on your head, they look funny (in a bad way biggrin.gif).
post #5237 of 8065
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Originally Posted by xkonfuzed View Post

IMO they feel good in the hand and are good to look at, but once they're on your head, they look funny (in a bad way biggrin.gif).

Haha, the earcups do stick out and make you kind of look like an insectoid, but the headband is pretty flush on my head. Looking a little big is fine for the DT880 because it's a home headphone. It would be an issue for a portable, though. I don't want to look silly when I'm out. PX100ii represent!

post #5238 of 8065
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Originally Posted by HeretixAevum View Post
 

Haha, the earcups do stick out and make you kind of look like an insectoid...

 

Exactly! They should have tinted the grills red, then they would really look like compound eyes!

post #5239 of 8065
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Originally Posted by HeretixAevum View Post
 

Haha, the earcups do stick out and make you kind of look like an insectoid, but the headband is pretty flush on my head. Looking a little big is fine for the DT880 because it's a home headphone. It would be an issue for a portable, though. I don't want to look silly when I'm out. PX100ii represent!

 

At the last Head-fi meet I attended an old fellow asked me if I was wearing Liberace's headphones. :confused_face_2::beyersmile:

post #5240 of 8065
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Originally Posted by MrEleventy View Post

Troll: Welcome back to base camp, how was your trip to the summit? ;D How did the Burson compare btw?

@MrEleventy Thanks, it is good to be back!

 

I climbed to the summit of K2 and found the golden shrine of Audeze, the faithful there presented me with a holy sacred token.

 

The LCD 3's are absolutely amazing... The feel, the weight, the comfort and that smell of lambskin is very nice. I was really amazed at the heft these thing have, you definitely do not want to swing your head wearing them as they will fly off and kill the person next to you. :D  When I did finally manage to set them down and pick up the beyer's for a listen on the Burson, I laughed as to how light the DT880's really are, I can imagine the people who complain about the clamping force of the DT880 Pro's would have to prop their neck up with a stick if they had the LCD 3's on. :veryevil:

 

I could not begin to properly explain the specific differences in sound as I am not that analytical a listener, nor would it be fair to compare planar drivers to dynamic ones. Since I have not auditioned other headphones in the $500+ range it would be great to see how the LCD 3's compare to the 2's. I would just love to hear a T1 or T90 one day and even a HE-6 out of "The Little Monster" mini-X a-100 on speaker taps.

 

The Conductor SL is a great amp, lot's of power (2W) to drive both headphones into the "Make you Deeef" levels and it works right out of the box with Windows 7 and OSX 10.6.8, shows up as "Speakers" on both platforms though... One of the things I would have liked was a Line Stage but that is what the non SL version has among other things.This unit came with both DAC boards, ESS and the TI so one could compare the sound of both options. The ESS9018 board spent the most time installed, the PCM1793 sounded very close to my E17/E09K combo and I enjoyed the detail and clarity of the ESS more.

 

This amp is quite interesting in it's build, everything inside is modular so it is very easy to swap out or upgrade components.

Same Alps potentiometer as my LD MK IV has... ;) The non SL version has a stepped attenuator but it is only a 20+ step. I usually find one spot where the step you are on is not loud enough and the next step up is louder than you want, that is why there are replacement 48 step versions available.

 

Some things did bother me about the amp, quite a few via`s are not soldered all the way through, there is a big bend on the main board up in the top corner like the standoff under the transformer is too tall. The back inside panel looks like somebody just scuffed it up with a piece of sandpaper, I do realize it`s the inside of the case and most uses will never have the cover off. Since all upgrades are user installable, I felt the inside chassis should be finished up a little bit more.

 

Anyway... I have hijacked this thread long enough, so it`s back to your regularly scheduled beyerdynamic discussion and a little parting picture of some DT880 Pro Love!

:beerchug: 

post #5241 of 8065
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Originally Posted by TrollDragon View Post
 

@MrEleventy Thanks, it is good to be back!

 

I climbed to the summit of K2 and found the golden shrine of Audeze, the faithful there presented me with a holy sacred token.

 

The LCD 3's are absolutely amazing... The feel, the weight, the comfort and that smell of lambskin is very nice. I was really amazed at the heft these thing have, you definitely do not want to swing your head wearing them as they will fly off and kill the person next to you. :D  When I did finally manage to set them down and pick up the beyer's for a listen on the Burson, I laughed as to how light the DT880's really are, I can imagine the people who complain about the clamping force of the DT880 Pro's would have to prop their neck up with a stick if they had the LCD 3's on. :veryevil:

 

I could not begin to properly explain the specific differences in sound as I am not that analytical a listener, nor would it be fair to compare planar drivers to dynamic ones. Since I have not auditioned other headphones in the $500+ range it would be great to see how the LCD 3's compare to the 2's. I would just love to hear a T1 or T90 one day and even a HE-6 out of "The Little Monster" mini-X a-100 on speaker taps.

 

The Conductor SL is a great amp, lot's of power (2W) to drive both headphones into the "Make you Deeef" levels and it works right out of the box with Windows 7 and OSX 10.6.8, shows up as "Speakers" on both platforms though... One of the things I would have liked was a Line Stage but that is what the non SL version has among other things.This unit came with both DAC boards, ESS and the TI so one could compare the sound of both options. The ESS9018 board spent the most time installed, the PCM1793 sounded very close to my E17/E09K combo and I enjoyed the detail and clarity of the ESS more.

 

This amp is quite interesting in it's build, everything inside is modular so it is very easy to swap out or upgrade components.

Same Alps potentiometer as my LD MK IV has... ;) The non SL version has a stepped attenuator but it is only a 20+ step. I usually find one spot where the step you are on is not loud enough and the next step up is louder than you want, that is why there are replacement 48 step versions available.

 

Some things did bother me about the amp, quite a few via`s are not soldered all the way through, there is a big bend on the main board up in the top corner like the standoff under the transformer is too tall. The back inside panel looks like somebody just scuffed it up with a piece of sandpaper, I do realize it`s the inside of the case and most uses will never have the cover off. Since all upgrades are user installable, I felt the inside chassis should be finished up a little bit more.

 

Anyway... I have hijacked this thread long enough, so it`s back to your regularly scheduled beyerdynamic discussion and a little parting picture of some DT880 Pro Love!

:beerchug: 

 

 

You know I get the feeling my NFB 10ES2 has a better build and sound over the Burson :/ 

 

That said balanced FTW baby! 

post #5242 of 8065
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

 

 

You know I get the feeling my NFB 10ES2 has a better build and sound over the Burson :/ 

 

That said balanced FTW baby! 

As my signature says....GO BALANCE OR GO HOME!

post #5243 of 8065
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Originally Posted by knightboy140 View Post
 

As my signature says....GO BALANCE OR GO HOME!

*HIGH FIVES* 

post #5244 of 8065
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Originally Posted by wahsmoh View Post
 

I know!!! I was actually surprised when I had the chance to compare them to HD800s at a meet. It was no doubt that the HD800s had the deeper soundstage, the DT880s felt more intimate and imaged just as well as the HD800s and were more suitable for all kinds of music which I felt the HD800s were not due to the enormous distance they place you away from the music. I just couldn't believe that for that enormous mount more we're talking about a 1-2% difference in improvement and even that is very subjective.

 

If you check out a guy's page named Ken Rockwell on Google, he even mentions how his DT880s are the closest sounding to electrostatics and he sold his HD800 out of disappointment.

 

But, these "improvements" are simply part of the nature of the game. I'm glad I had the opportunity to attend a Head-fi meet because it pointed me in a direction to where I can compliment my DT880s with headphones I can put into listening rotation.

 

My next purchase is definitely going to be a pair of Mr. Speakers Alpha Dogs. For a closed headphone they were absolutely amazing in every way.

try a pair of Stax SRS-2170 'phones!

post #5245 of 8065
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Originally Posted by knightboy140 View Post
 

As my signature says....GO BALANCE OR GO HOME!

I will be honest. I am highly skeptical of the effects of balancing. I'm not saying there aren't effects. I'm just doubtful. Humbly doubtful. 

 

What do you guys find different about it? 

 

Not trying to challenge someone or something. Just curious and whatnot. :)

post #5246 of 8065
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Originally Posted by Sonic Atrocity View Post
 

I will be honest. I am highly skeptical of the effects of balancing. I'm not saying there aren't effects. I'm just doubtful. Humbly doubtful. 

 

What do you guys find different about it? 

 

Not trying to challenge someone or something. Just curious and whatnot. :)

Well there are two of us who have got the exact same results with different headphones and amps apprently

 

I found in both my HE 400 and DT 880, I get better extension on both ends, the bass on my DT 880 still shocks me :O [and I don't eq] so again better extenision on the highs, and a deep tighter more visceral bass, also a much better sense of instrument seperation

 

actually here's a easy way to demonstrate it. Take a pair of sunglasses... rub your fingers on them [and use dirty oily fingers] on them... look through them... what you see is what "se" sounds like. Get some glass cleaner and clean the glasses... then look again and what you see if what "balanced" sounds like. 

 

The sound is more clear, more coherent. It's the bass is heavier, the mids have more weight and body, the highs better extensision and the sound stage and mirco details are most great! Again like looking through clean glass after having it all smudy for so long 

post #5247 of 8065
Dude come on... Dirty sunglasses vs clean.... I really don't think there is that much of a difference... Be like putting cotton in your ears then taking it out...

So you have a balanced source as well?
post #5248 of 8065
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Originally Posted by Sonic Atrocity View Post
 

I will be honest. I am highly skeptical of the effects of balancing. I'm not saying there aren't effects. I'm just doubtful. Humbly doubtful. 

 

What do you guys find different about it? 

 

Not trying to challenge someone or something. Just curious and whatnot. :)

It's not like I don't like SE. But With my Hd800s, going balanced well...made everything just so much richer. And the sibilance I felt before was gone. But that's just me. 

post #5249 of 8065
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Originally Posted by TrollDragon View Post

Dude come on... Dirty sunglasses vs clean.... I really don't think there is that much of a difference... Be like putting cotton in your ears then taking it out...

So you have a balanced source as well?

Not dirty that was an exageration but smudgy vs non smudgy. Trust me I wear glasses all day long... if I touch my glasses OMG there's that ONE FREAKING smudge that drives me INSANE... you don't see it every second but like every 10 seconds it makes something look WIERD that is the differance between SE and Blanced

 

and ofc I have a balanced source. the AGD NFB 10ES2 is a balanced Dac and amp derp 

post #5250 of 8065

A little read for you fellows...

http://lampizator.eu/LAMPIZATOR/Balancedornot.html

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