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post #5206 of 7852

OK, so I've taken the headband apart to see what was causing that popping feeling in the headband.

 

 

 

The yolks, when the cups are at an extreme angle, push against the frame of the headband, which in turn means they sort of "pop" back into place when they push off the frame as you adjust them. This is quite annoying, it just feels cheap and crappy, however I would think this wouldn't be too hard to fix. As I've got them in the pictures, that's the absolute maximum extension of them, so all you would have to do is cut away a little more room off of the frame so that the yolk could move totally unrestricted when you swivel the cups around. It would be a tiny cut, nothing major, it shouldn't affect the headband's strength at all. I don't really have the machinery or know-how to do this myself, but I could probably find somebody who did. Or maybe I could buy myself a cheap, basic tool just to grind away the extra space needed. 


Edited by HeretixAevum - 11/12/13 at 10:00pm
post #5207 of 7852

Hmmm. Why don't you people just buy Pros and be done with it? Sound is great, headband super comfy (and easily replaceable), and I never even think about driver impedance on the theory that if they're intended for studio use Beyer would have got that bit right. Could be mistaken, but I'm too busy enjoying the sound to worry.  ;)  

post #5208 of 7852
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Originally Posted by MrEleventy View Post


Yeah, a lot of HFers baby their equipment. Just about all my stuff has been bought from HF's sale threads. Only 3 exceptions and that's the T90s, Technical Pro HPT990, and the E10. Everything else I've bought on here and plenty happy about it. Just make sure you do some hw before you randomly buy. smily_headphones1.gif

TLDR 25 posts no thanks lol

 

Anyways I have sold an bought a LOT of gear on head fi [about 27 units so far and I've got 3 to ship and one to purchase so about 30 at this point]  Non the less, I've never gotten a DOA and I've shipped one product and USPS Killed it in transit... needless to say my buyer got a refund and I let he keep the damn thing! So head fi'rs to baby their gear! And if a head fi'r sends you a BUSTED item [by freak accident ofc] we are easy to work with! 

post #5209 of 7852

I just had an eargasm :O I love these headphones enough said.. I really want to compare my recabled 250 ohm DT880s to other people's stock cabled DT880s to see if what I'm hearing is placebo or actual improvement. I'm also running a Schiit Uberfrost which could have something to do with the amount of detail and separation that made my ears rejoice.

 

I also got to hear someone's HD600 and HD650 off a portable setup at a head-fi meet and was not too impressed. I feel that they deserve a standalone amp and even then I wouldn't be happy because I enjoy treble a lot

post #5210 of 7852
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Originally Posted by wahsmoh View Post
 

I just had an eargasm :O I love these headphones enough said.. I really want to compare my recabled 250 ohm DT880s to other people's stock cabled DT880s to see if what I'm hearing is placebo or actual improvement. I'm also running a Schiit Uberfrost which could have something to do with the amount of detail and separation that made my ears rejoice.

 

I also got to hear someone's HD600 and HD650 off a portable setup at a head-fi meet and was not too impressed. I feel that they deserve a standalone amp and even then I wouldn't be happy because I enjoy treble a lot

DUDEEEE AYEE. I had basically your setup a while ago and yess dt880s sounded amazing. Now if you upgrade your source and amp even more, you'll have even more of an eargasm :D Trust me.

Reason: Bifrost is amazing and legit, but it was a tad too bright for me. After upgrading my sources and amp, dt880s sound so freaking incredible you won't believe they are 200 bucks cans.

post #5211 of 7852
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Originally Posted by wahsmoh View Post
 

I really want to compare my recabled 250 ohm DT880s to other people's stock cabled DT880s to see if what I'm hearing is placebo or actual improvement.

 

You'll want to be careful there. Individual units are likely to sound slightly different from one another. Driver matching on these is usually pretty good (with obvious exceptions that come up on the forum sometimes), but nothing will ever be perfect, and in any event, the drivers in any given pair just have to match each other, not necessarily drivers from other units. Any difference you hear might just be unit variation, and in that case you'll likely prefer your own pair because it's familiar.

post #5212 of 7852
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Originally Posted by Argyris View Post
 

 

You'll want to be careful there. Individual units are likely to sound slightly different from one another. Driver matching on these is usually pretty good (with obvious exceptions that come up on the forum sometimes), but nothing will ever be perfect, and in any event, the drivers in any given pair just have to match each other, not necessarily drivers from other units. Any difference you hear might just be unit variation, and in that case you'll likely prefer your own pair because it's familiar.

I was thinking the SPL meter would be for measuring the decibel levels of the right and left driver compared to eachother - not compared to other pairs of DT880. Or, am I misunderstanding you?

post #5213 of 7852

Well the LCD 3's have gone on their way to the next recipient. :(

 

So the DT880 Pro's are going to get some love again, some tube love from the 6DJ8 type DIY "Tower of Power" adapter.

The B9A adapter on the top plugs into an octal socket which will allow me to roll some 6SN7`s or some 6H9C`s. :D

post #5214 of 7852
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Originally Posted by TrollDragon View Post
 

Well the LCD 3's have gone on their way to the next recipient. :(

 

So the DT880 Pro's are going to get some love again, some tube love from the 6DJ8 type DIY "Tower of Power" adapter.

The B9A adapter on the top plugs into an octal socket which will allow me to roll some 6SN7`s or some 6H9C`s. :D

too much sexiness. I just really want my dt880s back already. Recabling is taking too long T_T

post #5215 of 7852
Troll: Welcome back to base camp, how was your trip to the summit? ;D How did the Burson compare btw?
post #5216 of 7852
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Originally Posted by knightboy140 View Post
 

DUDEEEE AYEE. I had basically your setup a while ago and yess dt880s sounded amazing. Now if you upgrade your source and amp even more, you'll have even more of an eargasm :D Trust me.

Reason: Bifrost is amazing and legit, but it was a tad too bright for me. After upgrading my sources and amp, dt880s sound so freaking incredible you won't believe they are 200 bucks cans.

I know!!! I was actually surprised when I had the chance to compare them to HD800s at a meet. It was no doubt that the HD800s had the deeper soundstage, the DT880s felt more intimate and imaged just as well as the HD800s and were more suitable for all kinds of music which I felt the HD800s were not due to the enormous distance they place you away from the music. I just couldn't believe that for that enormous mount more we're talking about a 1-2% difference in improvement and even that is very subjective.

 

If you check out a guy's page named Ken Rockwell on Google, he even mentions how his DT880s are the closest sounding to electrostatics and he sold his HD800 out of disappointment.

 

But, these "improvements" are simply part of the nature of the game. I'm glad I had the opportunity to attend a Head-fi meet because it pointed me in a direction to where I can compliment my DT880s with headphones I can put into listening rotation.

 

My next purchase is definitely going to be a pair of Mr. Speakers Alpha Dogs. For a closed headphone they were absolutely amazing in every way.

post #5217 of 7852
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Originally Posted by wahsmoh View Post
 

I know!!! I was actually surprised when I had the chance to compare them to HD800s at a meet. It was no doubt that the HD800s had the deeper soundstage, the DT880s felt more intimate and imaged just as well as the HD800s and were more suitable for all kinds of music which I felt the HD800s were not due to the enormous distance they place you away from the music. I just couldn't believe that for that enormous mount more we're talking about a 1-2% difference in improvement and even that is very subjective.

 

If you check out a guy's page named Ken Rockwell on Google, he even mentions how his DT880s are the closest sounding to electrostatics and he sold his HD800 out of disappointment.

 

But, these "improvements" are simply part of the nature of the game. I'm glad I had the opportunity to attend a Head-fi meet because it pointed me in a direction to where I can compliment my DT880s with headphones I can put into listening rotation.

 

My next purchase is definitely going to be a pair of Mr. Speakers Alpha Dogs. For a closed headphone they were absolutely amazing in every way.

i like you. we should be bffs. And i need to hear maddogs myself for once

post #5218 of 7852

Something Tyll Hertsens often says is that once you reach the higher price ranges, you're basically solving problems. The basic presentation is already available in less expensive offerings, though usually with a few obvious flaws. When a company sets out to make a new flagship, they often pin down a few of those flaws and try to mitigate them. Beyer tried to make harmonic distortion as low as possible with Tesla; Sennheiser attempted to get rid of ringing and cone breakup at higher frequencies with the HD800; etc, etc.

 

A fair amount of engineering goes into this, and the number of people who will find the less expensive offerings significantly flawed is already small, so the company needs to make something back on its investment. Hence, the higher price per unit for these flagship offerings.

 

Or, that's the excuse I'm sure they would use if you asked. Somehow they managed to make flagships like the HD6x0 and DT880 back in the day for an order of magnitude cheaper than the most expensive current flagships go for today, and I doubt the research and testing were significantly less expensive to do back then. I've never quite shaken the idea that they simply realized people would pay substantially higher prices for the same iterative upgrades they hadn't paid a premium for in the past, if only to have the latest shiny.

post #5219 of 7852
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Isn't that James Watt's first attempt at the steam engine? 

 

:p

post #5220 of 7852
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Originally Posted by wahsmoh View Post
 

I know!!! I was actually surprised when I had the chance to compare them to HD800s at a meet. It was no doubt that the HD800s had the deeper soundstage, the DT880s felt more intimate and imaged just as well as the HD800s and were more suitable for all kinds of music which I felt the HD800s were not due to the enormous distance they place you away from the music. I just couldn't believe that for that enormous mount more we're talking about a 1-2% difference in improvement and even that is very subjective.

 

If you check out a guy's page named Ken Rockwell on Google, he even mentions how his DT880s are the closest sounding to electrostatics and he sold his HD800 out of disappointment.

 

But, these "improvements" are simply part of the nature of the game. I'm glad I had the opportunity to attend a Head-fi meet because it pointed me in a direction to where I can compliment my DT880s with headphones I can put into listening rotation.

 

My next purchase is definitely going to be a pair of Mr. Speakers Alpha Dogs. For a closed headphone they were absolutely amazing in every way.

Nice I actually had the Mad Dog and I HATED It, it was terrible imo. Good to hear the MD has stepped up a lot over the MD. Although I'm sure it's a little unfair to compare a 3.1 Mad Dog to a fully balanced Alpha Dog. And I honestly want the T1 my self. The angled drivers should give the T1 the same depth as the HD 800, width wise nothing is a wide as a HD800 nor does anything need to imo 

 

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Originally Posted by knightboy140 View Post
 

i like you. we should be bffs. And i need to hear maddogs myself for once

Well th Mad Dog is very different from the DT 880 imo, The alpha dog is apprently a much brighter leaner can, where as the MD is pretty warm and dark 

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