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With a Little Dot MK II to IV SE there are some fine tubes to be had for less than $10 a pair. The higher in class you go the more expensive it will be, on a nice $3500+ Woo, $200 to $300 a tube is not unreasonable. biggrin.gif
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That's why I'm sticking with my dark voice 336. biggrin.gif
post #4998 of 7852
Quote:
Originally Posted by xkonfuzed View Post

How about we stop the endless amplifier arguments and tell a joke. I got one, it's about amplifiers.:

Nevermind, it'll drive you crazy.

See what I did there wink.gif

 

Yes, you told the world's worst joke!  :biggrin:

post #4999 of 7852

The world's worst joke is:

 

Zwei peanuts ver valking down ze strasse and vone vas assaulted. Peanut.

post #5000 of 7852
Quote:
Originally Posted by Argyris View Post
 

The world's worst joke is:

 

Zwei peanuts ver valking down ze strasse and vone vas assaulted. Peanut.

OK.

You win!

:angry_face:

post #5001 of 7852

sorry, truly, but one more amp related question... if I may

 

do you guys think an external amp will be necessary to use dt880-250ohm with below DAP: 

 

X3
Output Power 1 > 540 mW@16Ω  Output Impedance <0.3Ω
Output Power2 > 270 mW@32Ω  Crosstalk >75 dB@1KHz
Output Power3 > 30 mW@300Ω  THD+N < 0.005%@1KHz
Frequency Response 10Hz~20KHz(+/-0.2) MAX output voltage > 8 Vp-p
SNR > 105 dB (AUX IN) MAX output current > 250 mA

 

 

where can a girl learn what all those numbers mean? :confused: 


Edited by jscivias - 10/24/13 at 7:50pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jscivias View Post

sorry, truly, but one more amp related question... if I may

do you guys think an external amp will be necessary to use dt880-250ohm with below DAP: 


















































X3
Output Power 1


> 540 mW@16Ω 



Output Impedance


<0.3Ω


Output Power


2



> 270 mW@32Ω 



Crosstalk


>75 dB@1KHz


Output Power


3



> 30 mW@300Ω 



THD+N


< 0.005%@1KHz


Frequency Response





10Hz~20KHz(+/-0.2)


MAX output voltage


> 8 Vp-p


SNR


> 105 dB (AUX IN)


MAX output current





> 250 mA





where can a girl learn what all those numbers mean? confused.gif  

Looks like this headphone amp is really designed to drive low impedance headphones: 16 Ohms, 62 Ohms, I wouldn'nt use it to drive anything higher than a 100 Ohm headphone.

30 mW into a 300 Ohm headphone may not be enough if you don't want to clip the peaks on recordings with a lot of dynamics with your 250 Ohm Beyers.

For a decent amount of headroom for dynamic range I would suggest an amp capable of outputting 100 mW into 250 or 300 Ohms.

OTOH, how does your amp sound to you?
If you don't listen very loud, then 30 mW may be OK.
Edited by Chris J - 10/25/13 at 4:23am
post #5003 of 7852
Quote:
Originally Posted by jscivias View Post
 

sorry, truly, but one more amp related question... if I may

 

do you guys think an external amp will be necessary to use dt880-250ohm with below DAP:

 

X3
Output Power 1 > 540 mW@16Ω  Output Impedance <0.3Ω
Output Power2 > 270 mW@32Ω  Crosstalk >75 dB@1KHz
Output Power3 > 30 mW@300Ω  THD+N < 0.005%@1KHz
Frequency Response 10Hz~20KHz(+/-0.2) MAX output voltage > 8 Vp-p
SNR > 105 dB (AUX IN) MAX output current > 250 mA

 

 

where can a girl learn what all those numbers mean? :confused:

The X3 can power the 880s but you won't get the most out of them without a decent amp IMHO. I use the E12/X3 combo with my 250ohm 880s and the combo provides plenty of power.

post #5004 of 7852
Quote:
Originally Posted by xkonfuzed View Post

How about we stop the endless amplifier arguments and tell a joke. I got one, it's about amplifiers.:

Nevermind, it'll drive you crazy.

See what I did there wink.gif
I don't see us arguing. More like passionate sharing... with angry faces. dt880smile.png
post #5005 of 7852
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrEleventy View Post


I don't see us arguing. More like passionate sharing... with angry faces. dt880smile.png

yea and I say Balanced Solid state is the best way to drive an 80 ;3
 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrEleventy View Post


I don't see us arguing. More like passionate sharing... with angry faces. dt880smile.png

 

We!

Are!

Not!  

Arguing! :angry_face:

 

And anyone who disagrees with me will get an argument!  :mad: 

post #5007 of 7852
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vidmaven View Post
 

The X3 can power the 880s but you won't get the most out of them without a decent amp IMHO. I use the E12/X3 combo with my 250ohm 880s and the combo provides plenty of power.

 

Ah ha!

Another Dt880/600 Ohm and FiiO E12 lover!

 

Seriously, folks.

E12 is great bang for the bucks with the high impedance DT880!   :biggrin:

post #5008 of 7852

How much different is the E12 from the E11? I own an E11 and when I tried my 600ohm 880s with it they were really quiet. Do people really listen to music as quietly as it sounds like? My hearing is good, and while I know I listen to music loudly as a preference I just find it hard to believe I like it so much louder than most.

post #5009 of 7852
Output is much higher. E11 can only muster 180 mW @ 32ohms, while the E12 can do 880 mW@32ohms.
post #5010 of 7852
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sonic Defender View Post
 

How much different is the E12 from the E11? I own an E11 and when I tried my 600ohm 880s with it they were really quiet. Do people really listen to music as quietly as it sounds like? My hearing is good, and while I know I listen to music loudly as a preference I just find it hard to believe I like it so much louder than most.

E11 is like a toy next to the E12.

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