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post #4621 of 8065

I ran my 880s (600ohm) from a Schiit Valhalla OTL amp and I actually really liked the synergy. Sure my SS Auditor seemed to control the drivers so freaking well that the 880s were astounding at their price point I thought, but the Auditor is quite a bit more expensive and quite well regarded with the Beyer cans so I would have to say that the OTL wasn't a bad sonic match. Nor for that matter was my HF2 with the Valhalla where conventional wisdom suggests that the impedance mismatching should have been a noticeable problem which I didn't find to be the case.

post #4622 of 8065
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Originally Posted by Sonic Defender View Post

It will also depend on how loud you like your music. The 880 series are not very sensitive headphones which means they take a fair amount of current to drive to loud volume. I know that with my Schiit Valhalla my 880s were pretty loud, however with my Auditor which supplies plenty of voltage, but not as much current, the 880s were hard to drive to louder listening levels, certainly with more quietly mastered material. From what I can tell, it seems I like to listen at louder volume than do many other people so take what I say with a grain of salt. Listen before you buy if you can, and if that isn't possible make sure the return policy is good in case you want to back out. On the bass issue, the 880s have very good bass in my experience, accurate and well extended. Not perfect of course, but for their price point, fantastic performance.

More current or more voltage, depends on the impedance of yer DTs, mate!
post #4623 of 8065
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

So you know me, go big or GET OUT

I don't know... This is a very nice setup for me and it's very reasonable to boot.

Canadian General Electric 6DT6A's Drivers

Dire Straits "Brothers In Arms" 20th Anniversary Edition in 24/96 and "Money for Nothing" will raise goosebumps on your goosebumps! :D

 

Don't knock the lower end gear bro... and if your really into "go big or GET OUT"

Then you really need to look in the Eddie Current Balancing Act with a pair of KR 300B Balloon's to make those cans sing...

:beerchug:

post #4624 of 8065
He scoffed at the wa22 and that was a mere 2gs. Me things he needs to get out wink.gif
post #4625 of 8065
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Originally Posted by TrollDragon View Post
 

I don't know... This is a very nice setup for me and it's very reasonable to boot.

Canadian General Electric 6DT6A's Drivers

Dire Straits "Brothers In Arms" 20th Anniversary Edition in 24/96 and "Money for Nothing" will raise goosebumps on your goosebumps! :D

 

Don't knock the lower end gear bro... and if your really into "go big or GET OUT"

Then you really need to look in the Eddie Current Balancing Act with a pair of KR 300B Balloon's to make those cans sing...

:beerchug:


That's a great recording. I gotta check that out now that you mentioned it :D

post #4626 of 8065
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post

It's a matter of prefferance, but hey as long as you like it and your open to trying something new. Just enjoy biggrin.gif 
 
In addition the Dt 880 like OTL tubes because they need a lot of voltage, you can get those volts easier with a tube than a Solid State...
 
^^ 


You can get more than enough voltage out of a SS amp to drive 600 Ohm DTs.

I think us tube lovers love using OTL tube amps with 600 Ohm DTs because we like the slight hint of second order harmonic distortion they add.
In addition, many tube amps have less IMD than SS amps.

Just my opinion.......redface.gif
post #4627 of 8065
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Originally Posted by MrEleventy View Post

He scoffed at the wa22 and that was a mere 2gs. Me things he needs to get out wink.gif

xD I did not scoff at the Wa22 I scoffed at u for suggesting something so out of even MY budget [once again i get Government Grants for school, 12 years of no social life ans striaght A's is payin off finally] 

 

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Originally Posted by TrollDragon View Post
 

I don't know... This is a very nice setup for me and it's very reasonable to boot.

 

 

Don't knock the lower end gear bro... and if your really into "go big or GET OUT"

Then you really need to look in the Eddie Current Balancing Act with a pair of KR 300B Balloon's to make those cans sing...

:beerchug:

YEA BABY, yea I'm not the guy who just pours money into stuff... I reaserach and my GO big I'm talking the LD MK VI+, I want to hear the best LD has to offer. I know the LD MKIV SE is great, but I want something better than that

 

And Indeed I do like the second order harmonics of a tube, but not the extra decay and warmth they add. And I was using Clear Top tubes in my hybrid, AND the reonowned Mullards, both of which I found to be lacking dynamicly compared to a solid state. So when I go with tubes [because I am apprently a 3'rd Harmonic kinda guy] I'm hoping I can have enough after buying the LDVI+ to get some Tung Sols in that girl :3

 

Also the Audio GD is sechedule to arrive today... DHL sent me a text message :O 

post #4628 of 8065
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Originally Posted by Chris J View Post


More current or more voltage, depends on the impedance of yer DTs, mate!

 

I wish I could find the article that explained why the impedance has very little to do with how loud a volume your headphone (or speaker) can achieve, it is the sensitivity that most matters. It was an excellent article and I will try to find it.


Edited by Sonic Defender - 9/24/13 at 6:49am
post #4629 of 8065
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Originally Posted by Sonic Defender View Post

I wish I could find the article that explained why the impedance has very little to do with how loud a volume your headphone (or speaker) can achieve, it is the sensitivity that most matters. It was an excellent article and I will try to find it.
I forgot how I ended up on this site but I bookmarked this one that had a pretty good explanation on amps, headphones, and sensitivity. Link
post #4630 of 8065

How do you guys think the DT 880s would go with metal? I know a lot of people push Grado, Ultrasone, and Shure. But I am very much a neutrality freak, and I really believe in listening to music at the highest level of fidelity possible. I am sad a lot of my fellow metal-heads do not feel the same way. 

 

So far the DT 880s seem like they'd be close to perfect, albeit a bit of a treble spike that can likely be solved with EQing. I read on a review here on head-fi that the DT 880s are a bit slow, and that it is sometimes hard to tell where fast instruments (like drums) start and stop. That would be a deal-breaker for me as I listen to a fair bit of fast, technical metal and I need headphones that can keep up. I really want to hear those quick details, ya know?

 

Currently, I'm using KRK KNS 8400s, driven by my clip zip (rockboxed with the Meier crossfeed algorithm). I can't really comment on how good they are given my inexperience as an audiophile (I formerly owned the Pro 900 and grew to HATE them as they are the antithesis of fidelity. Since then I have tested out the AKG Q701 for about ten minutes, and the DT 880 for about five... though I didn't really like the DT 880 at the time I was running them through a Fiio 12 attached to my clip zip... wasn't a fair chance). 

post #4631 of 8065
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Originally Posted by Sonic Atrocity View Post
 

How do you guys think the DT 880s would go with metal? I know a lot of people push Grado, Ultrasone, and Shure. But I am very much a neutrality freak, and I really believe in listening to music at the highest level of fidelity possible. I am sad a lot of my fellow metal-heads do not feel the same way. 

 

So far the DT 880s seem like they'd be close to perfect, albeit a bit of a treble spike that can likely be solved with EQing. I read on a review here on head-fi that the DT 880s are a bit slow, and that it is sometimes hard to tell where fast instruments (like drums) start and stop. That would be a deal-breaker for me as I listen to a fair bit of fast, technical metal and I need headphones that can keep up. I really want to hear those quick details, ya know?

 

Currently, I'm using KRK KNS 8400s, driven by my clip zip (rockboxed with the Meier crossfeed algorithm). I can't really comment on how good they are given my inexperience as an audiophile (I formerly owned the Pro 900 and grew to HATE them as they are the antithesis of fidelity. Since then I have tested out the AKG Q701 for about ten minutes, and the DT 880 for about five... though I didn't really like the DT 880 at the time I was running them through a Fiio 12 attached to my clip zip... wasn't a fair chance). 

 

They might be slow compared to Grados but slow is an exaggeration. These are fast headphones and are much better all-rounders than Grado with a closer to neutral frequency curve. I've listened to Tool in FLAC and was blown away by the drum solos. They sound fabulous with metal, hope that solves your problem :]

post #4632 of 8065

I agree. They may be slow compared to some other cans but I really don't think of them as slow. I think you would really like them for metal particularly if you're looking for neutrality which it sounds like you are.

post #4633 of 8065
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Originally Posted by wahsmoh View Post
 

 

They might be slow compared to Grados but slow is an exaggeration. These are fast headphones and are much better all-rounders than Grado with a closer to neutral frequency curve. I've listened to Tool in FLAC and was blown away by the drum solos. They sound fabulous with metal, hope that solves your problem :]

 

 

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Originally Posted by devhen View Post
 

I agree. They may be slow compared to some other cans but I really don't think of them as slow. I think you would really like them for metal particularly if you're looking for neutrality which it sounds like you are.

I actually like mine with metal, and as I am a fan of the balanced dt 880, I can say balancing it really brings out some nice speed in the low mids and the bass, which fo me makes metal all the better.

 

Still if you have the Pro 250, or the Pre 600 ohm, single end or balanced. Regardless of what form of the Dt 880 you have, I think you will enjoy it with metal as I do! 

post #4634 of 8065

Wouldn't describe these as slow cans eh? I mean... it would be able to keep up with this.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBPIEaZppeA ? 

 

 

Mind the crappy YouTube link. The sound quality sucks, but it adequately gives you an example of the kind of music I often listen to. Especially the beginning of the song. Actually, I sometimes listen to music more detailed and fast than that. :P

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnoXJy9mjmE

 

Also, the second link contains some of the more chaotic kind of music I listen to. I'm really hoping the DT 880s can keep up.  

 

And thanks again for the input everyone. I really do appreciate it. :) :) 

post #4635 of 8065
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Originally Posted by Sonic Atrocity View Post
 

Wouldn't describe these as slow cans eh? I mean... it would be able to keep up with this.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBPIEaZppeA ? 

 

 

Mind the crappy YouTube link. The sound quality sucks, but it adequately gives you an example of the kind of music I often listen to. Especially the beginning of the song. Actually, I sometimes listen to music more detailed and fast than that. :P

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnoXJy9mjmE

 

Also, the second link contains some of the more chaotic kind of music I listen to. I'm really hoping the DT 880s can keep up.  

 

And thanks again for the input everyone. I really do appreciate it. :) :) 

 

Listening now. The sound quality is actually decent on 720p/1080p. They sound plenty fast to me. If this is your cup of tea and you like a neutral signature I think you'll be happy.

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