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Originally Posted by Tallulah View Post
 

But the FiiO E10 is not only an amp, but a DAC too. I don't really understand what you are saying... So the problem is that I should have a dedicated DAC?

 

 

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Originally Posted by MrEleventy View Post


E10 can't be used as amp only so that's not the case. I think Tall just has a good chipset

 

 

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Originally Posted by devhen View Post
 

 

Agreed. Built-in sound cards are much better than they once were and some motherboards have a focus on decent audio and use above average chips. If you don't need the extra volume provided by the E10's amp then it probably won't sound much better than your onboard sound, if at all, which seems to be the case.

 

Whether or not the DT880 "needs an amp" is subjective. They get decently loud out of my Galaxy S2 but not loud enough to satisfy my needs. If your onboard sound card gets them loud enough then I guess in your case they don't require an amp.

 

If you want to findout how much of a difference good amping makes, if any at all, try your 880s out of something more powerful and higher quality than the E10. It is said that the 770/880/990 don't need a whole lot of power but do sound best when given plenty of voltage. I doubt the E10 is swinging much voltage at all.

 

LOL stupid me, I though it said E11 , LOL I keep typing e10 and thinking it was the E11

 

Yea excuse me for the retarded post, but that said there is one question answered! 

 

In addition I'm soon to find out how an DT 880 and 990 sound with a AUdio GD amp... pretty sure that bad boy can shove PLENTY of amps into them cans [not to much though] And as always forgive me for the DERPY post lol

 

Additionally, I just bought a Sound Magic HP100 [and sold my K550] so very soon I will compare the Sound Magic AND K550 TO the dt 880, as you guys know I wanted a closed DT 880, well the K550 was JUST that... but it's got forward mids and BORING treble... so I'm thinking the Sound Magic Hp100, will have a touch more treble and bass than teh k550 will will pair really nice with my soon to be purchased HM 801 and my iBasso Pb1 [which will arrive to me Tuesday] [I think the K550 will get a little too dark out of Dark Source and a Upper Mid boosting warm amp] 

 

That said :D I hope I'm one step closer to my closed dt 880 can ^^ 

post #4442 of 8196
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Originally Posted by devhen View Post

 

Agreed. Built-in sound cards are much better than they once were and some motherboards have a focus on decent audio and use above average chips. If you don't need the extra volume provided by the E10's amp then it probably won't sound much better than your onboard sound, if at all, which seems to be the case.

 

Whether or not the DT880 "needs an amp" is subjective. They get decently loud out of my Galaxy S2 but not loud enough to satisfy my needs. If your onboard sound card gets them loud enough then I guess in your case they don't require an amp.

 

If you want to findout how much of a difference good amping makes, if any at all, try your 880s out of something more powerful and higher quality than the E10. It is said that the 770/880/990 don't need a whole lot of power but do sound best when given plenty of voltage. I doubt the E10 is swinging much voltage at all.

 



32 Ohm 770/880/990 don't require much voltage, but need a bit more current.

600 Ohm 770/880/990 need a fair amount of voltage, but not too much current.

If he is using 32 Ohm DT880 then the E10 should have enough power.

E10 would tend to run into problems if it was called upon to drive 600 Ohm 'phones.
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Speaking of which, I just heard some new details out of my DT 880 :O Whoa another new detail HOT DIGGIDY my ears are on FIRE today :D 

 

I heard an bit of... pronunciation on the "F" in "fire" in Lisa's Ekdhals "Of My Conceit" also heard a little extra from the Trumpet in The Dave Brubeck Quart's Take Five, to elaborate we all know a trumpet makes sound via air blow through it, well we know that the Trumpet Player makes noise when he does this blowing of air, that noise... is pretty darn hard to spot, but as always I'm spaced out listening to music when BAM "HEY that's new" another little detail shoots out at me :D 

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Originally Posted by Chris J View Post

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Originally Posted by devhen View Post

 

Agreed. Built-in sound cards are much better than they once were and some motherboards have a focus on decent audio and use above average chips. If you don't need the extra volume provided by the E10's amp then it probably won't sound much better than your onboard sound, if at all, which seems to be the case.

 

Whether or not the DT880 "needs an amp" is subjective. They get decently loud out of my Galaxy S2 but not loud enough to satisfy my needs. If your onboard sound card gets them loud enough then I guess in your case they don't require an amp.

 

If you want to findout how much of a difference good amping makes, if any at all, try your 880s out of something more powerful and higher quality than the E10. It is said that the 770/880/990 don't need a whole lot of power but do sound best when given plenty of voltage. I doubt the E10 is swinging much voltage at all.

 



32 Ohm 770/880/990 don't require much voltage, but need a bit more current.

600 Ohm 770/880/990 need a fair amount of voltage, but not too much current.

If he is using 32 Ohm DT880 then the E10 should have enough power.

E10 would tend to run into problems if it was called upon to drive 600 Ohm 'phones.

Yeah, most definitely. The E10 specs is spotty. There are places where it says they can only handle up to 150 but other parts of the site or manual will list 300. If it's 150, it probably won't run the 250 very well either.
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post

Speaking of which, I just heard some new details out of my DT 880 :O Whoa another new detail HOT DIGGIDY my ears are on FIRE today biggrin.gif 

I heard an bit of... pronunciation on the "F" in "fire" in Lisa's Ekdhals "Of My Conceit" also heard a little extra from the Trumpet in The Dave Brubeck Quart's Take Five, to elaborate we all know a trumpet makes sound via air blow through it, well we know that the Trumpet Player makes noise when he does this blowing of air, that noise... is pretty darn hard to spot, but as always I'm spaced out listening to music when BAM "HEY that's new" another little detail shoots out at me biggrin.gif 

I love when that happens! I'll play those tracks over again a few more times to see if I can find anything else new. biggrin.gif
post #4445 of 8196
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Originally Posted by MrEleventy View Post


Yeah, most definitely. The E10 specs is spotty. There are places where it says they can only handle up to 150 but other parts of the site or manual will list 300. If it's 150, it probably won't run the 250 very well either.
I love when that happens! I'll play those tracks over again a few more times to see if I can find anything else new. biggrin.gif

 

I know me too :D

 

SO I'm now thinking of my Spring Purchase since my Fall purchases are finilized.

 

Thinking of going with a DX50 in the spring and an Es10 with ES11 pads, I might even try to get it modded same as our friend Bill-P... I'd have to hear the differance against the w1000x myself after he mentioned it! 

post #4446 of 8196
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Originally Posted by MrEleventy View Post



Yeah, most definitely. The E10 specs is spotty. There are places where it says they can only handle up to 150 but other parts of the site or manual will list 300. If it's 150, it probably won't run the 250 very well either.

I love when that happens! I'll play those tracks over again a few more times to see if I can find anything else new. biggrin.gif

 



Hey ya, mos' def'
The E17 outputs more power than the E10 and can be marginal with 600 Ohm DT880 on SOME material if you crank the volume.

Of course the E12 can drive any DT880 without breaking into a sweat...........
post #4447 of 8196
And there are still a few openings left for a DIY opamp rollable E12 on FiiO's site if you want one, $180 gets you the E12 and quite a few different opamps and buffers to roll. Get on it quickly if you want one.
post #4448 of 8196
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Originally Posted by TrollDragon View Post

And there are still a few openings left for a DIY opamp rollable E12 on FiiO's site if you want one, $180 gets you the E12 and quite a few different opamps and buffers to roll. Get on it quickly if you want one.

 

Link for those who are interested:

 

http://fiio.com.cn/news/index.aspx?ID=100000097367228

post #4449 of 8196
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Originally Posted by Chris J View Post

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Originally Posted by MrEleventy View Post



Yeah, most definitely. The E10 specs is spotty. There are places where it says they can only handle up to 150 but other parts of the site or manual will list 300. If it's 150, it probably won't run the 250 very well either.

I love when that happens! I'll play those tracks over again a few more times to see if I can find anything else new. biggrin.gif

 



Hey ya, mos' def'
The E17 outputs more power than the E10 and can be marginal with 600 Ohm DT880 on SOME material if you crank the volume.

Of course the E12 can drive any DT880 without breaking into a sweat...........
Yeah, I'm contemplating selling my e17 and getting something beefier. e17 is fine for my other phones but I plan on bringing my dt880/600 home since I have the t90s at work now and e17's not going to cut it.
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Originally Posted by devhen View Post

Link for those who are interested:

http://fiio.com.cn/news/index.aspx?ID=100000097367228
Thanks for posting the link devhen, I was on the mobile and sometimes it just doesn't want to cooperate.
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post #4451 of 8196
Can someone post a picture how to remove the clamping ring on the DT880, to access the driver? Please!
post #4452 of 8196
A little blade or thin screwdriver in the recessed area next to the ring and pry it up. Don't let the blade or driver slip in as it will puncture the white cloth material surrounding the driver. The rings are just clicked in on a little lip. If you really need a picture then I can take mine apart for you.
post #4453 of 8196
Don't want to damage the driver. Are you talking between the black foam and the ring, or in the groove around the ring?

Picture would help! Thanks!
post #4454 of 8196
No problem in 2 24 minutes.
Damn garbage HTC phone, there will not be another HTC PoS after this one dies.
Edited by TrollDragon - 9/6/13 at 6:42pm
post #4455 of 8196
Mine were rewired dual entry, and I lost sound in the right side, need to go in and investigate!
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