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post #436 of 10424

FB,

Thank you for the response.

 

I've never heard the HF-2, so I cannot comment there.  Compared to my re-cabled K501, the DT880/600 are definitely less coherent and "flush" in the midrange, though.  The Beyers give a "pinpoint" and well-sorted rendition by comparison, for lack of better adjectives.  

 

Also, I agree with your previous comment about the DT880/600 being analytical in their signature, although to me they manage to walk the tightrope between analytical and musical expertly, while avoiding frigidity or sterility.  But that's something I've always liked about the DT880 (and one of my preferred listening modes).  I will submit that the DT880/600 is less coldly analytic than the 2003 version.  (But, again, sometimes I like a "cold"/stark presentation.)

 

Compared to the  DT880/2003, the DT880/600 are better balanced across the frequency bands and better integrated in the midrange, IMHO.  But for me the DT880/2003 had more of a sense of air due to their more extended (some folks will say "hotter") treble response, which I happen to like.  My ears are tipped toward a brighter presentation than many on these threads tend to prefer.  However, I think that the improved balance/integration of frequencies with the DT880/600 make them a good design in their own right.  It's their improved frequency synergism coupled with their excellent presentation of detail that makes the 600 version a real winner.

 

Someday, Deo volente, I would like to formally a/b these two DT880 iterations to suit myself and answer any lingering questions.  For now, the DT880/600 make a wonderful compliment to the K501, and are definitely worth keeping for a good while.

 

Last night I listened to Lee Rittenour's rhythmic, Brazilian "Festival" (GRP), Loggins and Messina's "Best of Friends" (Columbia), Putumayo's "A Jewish Odyssey" (Putumayo) and Andrew Parrott, the Taverner Consort Choir and Players, performing "Giovanni Gabrieli, Canzonas, Sonatas, Motets" (EMI).  The DT880/600 handled each genre adroitly, making each session abundantly enjoyable.  With Gabrieli, the Beyers both resolved and preserved intact an incredible amount of musical information.  I really enjoy this kind of period music!  

 

Again, I don't agree with claims that the DT880/600's bass is "thin" or "lean".  If anything, they tend to be bass-pronounced--but not bass-bloated--in an enjoyable way.  I am beginning to wonder if Beyerdynamic's earlier production pieces had thinner bass than later production.  Or, whether it's just my ears.  Regardless, the DT880/600 are capable of prodigious bass response: deep, articulate, tuneful and delivered with impact.  With a driver tube like the Tung-Sol 6SN7GTB, the bass can border on the phenomenal, IMHE.    

 

Never heard the LDMKII, either, but when I had the Darkvoice 336i, it drove the DT880/2003 to near perfection, IMHO.  I'd like to hear reports of how well the DV336SE drives the DT880/600.  : )

 

PAB


Edited by pataburd - 5/17/10 at 2:51pm
post #437 of 10424
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Originally Posted by pataburd View Post

FB,

Thank you for the response.

 

I've never heard the HF-2, so I cannot comment there.  Compared to my re-cabled K501, the DT880/600 are definitely less coherent and "flush" in the midrange.  

 

Also, I agree with your previous comment about the DT880/600 being analytical in their signature, although to me they manage to walk the tightrope between analytical and musical expertly.  

 

Compared to the  DT880/2003, the DT880/600 are better balanced across the frequency bands and better integrated in the midrange, IMHO.  But for me the DT880/2003 had more of a sense of air due to their more extended (some folks will say "hotter") treble response, which I happen to like.  My ears are tipped toward a brighter presentation than many on these threads tend to prefer.  However, I think that the improved balance/integration of frequencies with the DT880/600 make them a good design in their own right.

 

Someday, Deo volente, I would like to formally a/b these two DT880 iterations to suit myself and answer any lingering questions.

 

Never heard the LDMKII, either, but when I had the Darkvoice 336i, it drove the DT880/2003 to near perfection, IMHO.  : )

 

PAB

 

Interesting. I didn't really notice the treble on the DT880/2003 and I do on these. I think I'm getting used to it though.

 

I do agree, the 600ohms are FAR more balanced and a vast improvement imho. I've grown to like them quite a bit. I suspect when I go back to my HF2's though (currently with ChineseKiwi ;)), I'll realize how much I missed them.
 

post #438 of 10424
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Originally Posted by fraseyboy View Post

Interesting. I didn't really notice the treble on the DT880/2003 and I do on these. I think I'm getting used to it though.

 

I do agree, the 600ohms are FAR more balanced and a vast improvement imho. I've grown to like them quite a bit. I suspect when I go back to my HF2's though (currently with ChineseKiwi ;)), I'll realize how much I missed them.
 


FB,

The treble on the DT880/600 is "rounded" compared to the 2003 version, IMHO, which is why it sounds more prominent (with the former).  The 2003 version had more transparent/silky highs, at least for me, and the listener had to complimentarily "re-construct" the midrange from the extended highs and extended lows.  All-in-all, this made for an unparalleled sense of "air" in the DT880/2003's sonic signature, which makes the 2003 version "special" to my ears.

PAB  

 

p.s.  Note that my original post underwent multiple revisions since you quoted it in your last response.  : )


Edited by pataburd - 5/17/10 at 2:55pm
post #439 of 10424

I'am listening to a pair of DT880's right now, borrowed from a fellow head-fier,music seems to have lots of room,some what 3D, the 3 frequency ranges are nicely smoothened out, nothing sibilant here

post #440 of 10424

The treble details is astounding and these headphones don't sound very much forward, nicely placed soundstage,can play with the volume without reaching very high.Definitely have more instruments playing around my head, feels like things are constantly moving their postion.

post #441 of 10424
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Originally Posted by kunalraiker View Post

The treble details is astounding and these headphones don't sound very much forward, nicely placed soundstage,can play with the volume without reaching very high.Definitely have more instruments playing around my head, feels like things are constantly moving their postion.


Omg yes @ the volume thing! I always end up turning them up louder than I would with other headphones. 

post #442 of 10424

To My Brethren Down Under:

No tizzy or sibilant treble here, either.  I will add that neither the DT880/2003 nor the DT880/600 have ever sounded sibilant to my ears.

 

Big, 3-D and arresting is the soundstage, indeed!  Also, great "pulse" and dynamics in the DT880/600's presentation.

 

God willing, as soon as I accept a job offer, I want to get these UP-OCC re-cabled and hang them alongside the K501.

 

PAB  : ) 


Edited by pataburd - 5/17/10 at 2:58pm
post #443 of 10424

Glad you are enjoying my DT880, kunal. I am thoroughly enjoying your K701  with my MAD Ear+ HD amp, I have the Grado HF-2 on 9 o'clock, AKG K701 at 10:30 and DT880 at 12 o'clock.


Edited by stang - 5/17/10 at 10:53am
post #444 of 10424
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Glad you are enjoying my DT880, kunal. I am thoroughly enjoying your K701  with my MAD Ear+ HD amp, I have the Grado HF-2 on 9 o'clock, AKG K701 at 10:30 and DT880 at 12 o'clock.


The volume knob positioning sounds about what I have got it on my audio gd C-2.
 

post #445 of 10424

Ah nice. On my Zero's amp, I only have to go to about 9:30 with the K701 haha.

post #446 of 10424

On my WA6, I'm, at 4 o clock with the DT880 600ohm.. lol.

 

But then thats due to my deafness(60% in both ears). I'm pretty sure someone with normal hearing levels will be around 1 o clock or so.

 

I got mine on Friday from Drew @ Moon Audio, and I must say these are absolutely superb.. definitely prefer these to the K701!

 

Oh and I wanted to ask, how do I check the ohm's on both the drivers?


Edited by Superfrag - 5/17/10 at 7:46pm
post #447 of 10424
Thread Starter 

multimeter. Growing to like the HF2s more fras.

post #448 of 10424
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Originally Posted by Superfrag View Post

Oh and I wanted to ask, how do I check the ohm's on both the drivers?


From an earlier post.

 

"Turn dial to the ohm symbol and touch the two probes together (just the metal tips). Your reading should be 0 or .1 (indicating no resistance between the probes).

 

Then proceed to the 1/4 stereo plug. The area closest to the hilt is the 'neutral' or 'ground'. The other two are the positive for the left and right.


Keep the black probe tip on the 'ground' and touch the L&R (separately) with the red probe tip. Check the readings for each. That's all there is."

 

Good luck.

 

shane

 


 

post #449 of 10424
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Originally Posted by shane55 View Post




From an earlier post.

 

"Turn dial to the ohm symbol and touch the two probes together (just the metal tips). Your reading should be 0 or .1 (indicating no resistance between the probes).

 

Then proceed to the 1/4 stereo plug. The area closest to the hilt is the 'neutral' or 'ground'. The other two are the positive for the left and right.


Keep the black probe tip on the 'ground' and touch the L&R (separately) with the red probe tip. Check the readings for each. That's all there is."

 

Good luck.

 

shane

 


 



Would there be any reason to check the ohms.

post #450 of 10424

Around 12:00 on the F-M Bada.  But the potentiometer has been "shunted" with Tantalum resistors so that it operates further along the dial than is usual.  Without the Tantalums, the volume setting would be closer to 9:30 or 10:00.  
 

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Originally Posted by Superfrag View Post

On my WA6, I'm, at 4 o clock with the DT880 600ohm.. lol.

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