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post #3916 of 8196
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Originally Posted by drewTT View Post


Thanks Chris.  I saw your comments earlier about this combination while scanning this thread and it made me happy.

No problem, when I get the money together I want to buy an M-DAC!
post #3917 of 8196
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Originally Posted by devhen View Post

Yep, I agree with both Argyris and shane55.

 

I would add, though, that sometimes you can use EQ to get the sound you're looking for if in its stock form the headphones don't quite match your exact preferences. That's only in regards to sound signature, obviously. I'd recommend getting the headphones that already have the basic signature you're looking for but I've been pretty pleasantly surprised with the results of EQ'ing with some of my cans. Just use a good EQ and do it properly so there's no distortion. Basically, EQ *down* what you don't want as opposed to EQ'ing *up* what you do want, so that nothing is above the 0db mark, then use volume to compensate. In any case, its worth playing around with IMO.

 

I agree with this as well. I'm a big advocate of precision parametric EQ, actually. The way it's outlined here is exactly the way it works--EQ should almost always be used in a subtractive sense. For me, the "10 kHz spike" the DT880 is so famous for actually comes in at ~7.6 kHz (it's most likely ear canal resonance, and thus will vary in placement with the individual), and there's a 5-6 kHz (5.8 kHz to my ear) spike that's intrinsic to the design. EQ'ing both these down gets rid of edginess without fundamentally changing the character of the headphone--it just makes a good thing even better. They're still brightish-neutral, detailed, and airy. 

post #3918 of 8196
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Originally Posted by Argyris View Post

there's a 5-6 kHz (5.8 kHz to my ear) spike that's intrinsic to the design.

 

Are you telling us you can hear the difference between 5.6 and 5.8khz? Not doubting you, just asking.

post #3919 of 8196

My guess is he's using some kind of sine sweep or test tone and noticing a spike at a very particular point. But I could be wrong.

post #3920 of 8196
Maybe he's one of these golden ears who can identify every single part of the spectrum fully.
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5-6 kHz with a dash, not a dot. I mean that the peak occurs somewhere between those two, since where it shows up on charts and where it shows up to my ears is a little different, which I'm assuming is either down to different ear geometry or else slight product variations. In actual practice, listening to actual music, I'm almost certain there's no way I could tell the difference between 5.6 and 5.8 kHz if you created notches and asked me to A-B between the two. My ears aren't that great. smile.gif

 

I indeed used a sine sweep in order to find exactly where it falls for me because I wanted to EQ it out as precisely as possible with minimal effect on the neighboring frequency bands.

post #3922 of 8196
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Originally Posted by Argyris View Post

5-6 kHz with a dash, not a dot. I mean that the peak occurs somewhere between those two, since where it shows up on charts and where it shows up to my ears is a little different, which I'm assuming is either down to different ear geometry or else slight product variations.

 

Well, we can't check product variations, but if you could post a picture of your ear geometry that would be very helpful. Thanks.

 

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post #3923 of 8196
I'm getting the urge, the itch.................I'm going to post a comparison between the Matrix M Stage and the La Figaro 336C headphone amps when used with DT880 600 Ohm cans. And now that I have posted this, I have to follow thru and do it!
post #3924 of 8196
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Originally Posted by Chris J View Post

I'm getting the urge, the itch.................I'm going to post a comparison between the Matrix M Stage and the La Figaro 336C headphone amps when used with DT880 600 Ohm cans. And now that I have posted this, I have to follow thru and do it!

 

That's the problem with public statements, innit? biggrin.gif

 

There's certainly no rush, though. Take your time. We're not going anywhere.

post #3925 of 8196
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Originally Posted by Chris J View Post

I'm getting the urge, the itch.................I'm going to post a comparison between the Matrix M Stage and the La Figaro 336C headphone amps when used with DT880 600 Ohm cans. And now that I have posted this, I have to follow thru and do it!


Looking forward to reading your comparison!
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I need an intervention, somebody keep me away from The Science Fiction Forum! mad.gif
post #3927 of 8196
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Originally Posted by Chris J View Post

I'm getting the urge, the itch.................I'm going to post a comparison between the Matrix M Stage and the La Figaro 336C headphone amps when used with DT880 600 Ohm cans. And now that I have posted this, I have to follow thru and do it!

Please do I'm trying to make a discision on the M-Stage...soon!

post #3928 of 8196

Got the phones today.  Very good sound so far but I find that I have to turn the MDAC up to -5dB or even all the way up to 0dB to get the volume I want.

 

I will do a lot more listening before I decided if I want a different amp.

 

post #3929 of 8196
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Originally Posted by drewTT View Post

Got the phones today.  Very good sound so far but I find that I have to turn the MDAC up to -5dB or even all the way up to 0dB to get the volume I want.

 

I will do a lot more listening before I decided if I want a different amp.

 

 

Congrats.

 

But what do you think about the sound quality with this combo?

post #3930 of 8196
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Originally Posted by shane55 View Post

 

Congrats.

 

But what do you think about the sound quality with this combo?


So far so good besides the volume issue.  Very detailed.  However, I feel it's still a step below my desktop speaker system in terms of resolution.  When using the MDAC with my amp/speakers, its absolutely holographic....

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