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post #3616 of 7854
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Originally Posted by Brooko View Post

Yes it's normal.  The Beyers have less sensitivity than the HD600s.


These are kind of a stupid questions but would turning the knob to make the volume higher make sound quality worse?  Usually when I do that there's a hissing sound but I haven't done that in a while since my HD600s were loud enough so I didn't have to have it way up.  Would getting better amp/dac change anything in terms of needing to turn the volume way up?

post #3617 of 7854

I'm guessing you're going PC > E17 > E9 right?

 

It's been a while since I used the Fiios (mine was E7/E9) and they were docked.  Does your E17 dock with the E9 - or do you have it set-up a different way.

 

Sorry about the questions - but unless I know exactly how you have everything hooked up - I can't really give any advice.

post #3618 of 7854
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Originally Posted by Brooko View Post

I'm guessing you're going PC > E17 > E9 right?

 

It's been a while since I used the Fiios (mine was E7/E9) and they were docked.  Does your E17 dock with the E9 - or do you have it set-up a different way.

 

Sorry about the questions - but unless I know exactly how you have everything hooked up - I can't really give any advice.

 

 

Yeah.  I'm on my desktop PC and I docked my E17 onto my E9 which has the USB plugged into the PC.  And what I meant to ask was is it "natural" to make the volume higher on the E9 with the 250 ohm pros than the HD600s?

post #3619 of 7854

I don't have the 250ohm any more to recheck (or the E9 for that matter).  But the HD600 despite being 300 ohm are actually pretty sensitive, and require less amplification to get to a desired listening level.  They are actually quite loud straight out of an iPhone at around 2/3 volume.  The Beyers on the other hand require more amplification to get to the same listening level.  So you either have to increase the gain, increase the source volume (if it's not fixed) or increase the volume pot.

post #3620 of 7854
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Originally Posted by Brooko View Post

I don't have the 250ohm any more to recheck (or the E9 for that matter).  But the HD600 despite being 300 ohm are actually pretty sensitive, and require less amplification to get to a desired listening level.  They are actually quite loud straight out of an iPhone at around 2/3 volume.  The Beyers on the other hand require more amplification to get to the same listening level.  So you either have to increase the gain, increase the source volume (if it's not fixed) or increase the volume pot.


Does that vary from every headphones or is it different with these Beyers where it's 250 ohm but requires more amp power to get same volume level as other headphones?

post #3621 of 7854

Varies from headphone to headphone.  Two factors  - impedance & sensitivity come into play.

 

Sorry - my better half is calling me right now - and we have to go into town (I'm in NZ and it's early afternoon).  If you google impedance vs sensitivity OR search these forums you should get a heap of info and some great explanations.

 

I'll be back in a few hours - but am sure someone can take over the explanation whilst I duck out.  Sorry.

post #3622 of 7854

Basically what Brooko said. The 250 ohm DT880 has an efficiency of 96 dB/mW, whereas the HD600 has an efficiency of 102 dB/mW. Efficiency is the SPL produced per mW of power applied. A difference of 6dB is quite substantial--if I'm remembering my math correctly, it should correspond to a doubling of SPL.

 

There's some good material on the subject here:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/17179/please-explain-headphone-sensitivity

post #3623 of 7854

Thanks guys.  Now can you guys tell me what are the best genres these headphones are good for?  I heard they're good for everything but does any genre stand out with these and can you guys recommend me artists/songs/albums to listen to?  I listen to all genres.  Thanks

post #3624 of 7854
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Originally Posted by TheChosen0ne View Post

Thanks guys.  Now can you guys tell me what are the best genres these headphones are good for?  I heard they're good for everything but does any genre stand out with these and can you guys recommend me artists/songs/albums to listen to?  I listen to all genres.  Thanks

For me DT880 are better for electric music and electric instruments than for acoustic, classical etc. But as you put it, they are good all arounders.

post #3625 of 7854
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Originally Posted by TheChosen0ne View Post

Thanks guys.  Now can you guys tell me what are the best genres these headphones are good for?  I heard they're good for everything but does any genre stand out with these and can you guys recommend me artists/songs/albums to listen to?  I listen to all genres.  Thanks

For me DT880 are better for electric music and electric instruments than for acoustic, classical etc. But as you put it, they are good all arounders.

 

 

For me DT880 are better for acoustic, classical than for electric music and electric instruments etc. But as you put it, they are good all rounders.  tongue.gif

post #3626 of 7854
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Originally Posted by muxamed View Post

For me DT880 are better for electric music and electric instruments than for acoustic, classical etc. But as you put it, they are good all arounders.

 

For me DT880 are better for acoustic, classical than for electric music and electric instruments etc. But as you put it, they are good all rounders.  tongue.gif

 

+2. Great all-arounders. I agree with both of you, I think they're good for electronic as well as acoustic & classical. I'm listening to them now and just a few minutes ago I was thinking about how there's no clear set genre that I like best with my 880s. With my other headphones there are certain genres/instruments/etc that they do best and when the right music comes on I always think to grab them. The 880 probably ends up with slightly less head time than they might otherwise because there's no particular genre that reminds me to put them on. When I do use them though, which is very often, they definitely do everything quite well. Probably even more of an all-arounder than my HD600s which are also good for pretty much anything IMO.

post #3627 of 7854
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Originally Posted by TheChosen0ne View Post

Yo guys, my 250 ohm pros came and they sound nice however with the fiio E9+E17, I had to turn up the volume up more than the HD600s that I have also to get the same volume.  Is this normal?  I'm not sure how much dbs this is but with the knob thing of the E9 right in the middle, my HD600s sound way more louder than my Beyers...

How are the 880's comparing to your HD600's? My local store has a senn sale on and can get the 600ohm 880's for the same price as the HD600's. Ends tommorow and don't know what to do eek haha

post #3628 of 7854
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Originally Posted by pp312 View Post

 

 

For me DT880 are better for acoustic, classical than for electric music and electric instruments etc. But as you put it, they are good all rounders.  tongue.gif

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post #3629 of 7854
Add another for all arounders. Yesterday at work I listened to some Daft Punk albums, some Dave Matthews Band, Norah Jones and a good mix of hip-hop. Love these cans. smily_headphones1.gif
post #3630 of 7854
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Originally Posted by mink42 View Post

How are the 880's comparing to your HD600's? My local store has a senn sale on and can get the 600ohm 880's for the same price as the HD600's. Ends tommorow and don't know what to do eek haha

I'd like to know too. I have the HD600, just got it. But I'm wondering on whether I should order the DT880 to compare them and send the one I like less back. 

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