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Would i be able to drive the 250 ohm version to ear bleeding levels with a portable amp?

 

Also, how do they compare to the dt700?


Edited by CheeseWithWorms - 6/3/13 at 4:14am
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Originally Posted by CheeseWithWorms View Post

Would i be able to drive the 250 ohm version to ear bleeding levels with a portable amp?

 

Also, how do they compare to the dt700?

 

It depends on which amp you're talking about and what you consider ear-bleeding levels but I would think for most people, and most portable amps, you'll get enough volume. I've actually been surprised how at how loud my 250 ohm 880s get even connected directly to my Galaxy S2 smartphone. They don't *quite* get as loud as I would like them to, but closer than I thought they would. Based on that I would say most portable amps will be adequate except for maybe very weak ones like the Fiio E6.

 

Do you mean the DT770? The 770 is closed so it isolates way better. The 770 tends to have a bit more bass and has more recessed mids. In fact let me just quote myself as I described my experience with the two a few posts ago...

 

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I know my 880 Pro-250 and 770 Premium-600 do sound very similar although they have quite different signatures. My theory is that the least consistent drivers are used for the 770, it being the cheapest model, since I heaven't heard a lot of reports of *wildly* variating signatures among 880s and 990s but its quite common with 770s. I had two seemingly identical 770-Premium-600's at the same time and one was quite bassy and not sibilant at all while the other was bass-shy and sibilant. I kept the bassy one and I love it actually. It does have more bass distortion than probably most 770s do thanks to the bass emphasis and the mids get a bit drowned out but I still quite like it. The 880 is a clearer rendition of the driver with less bass and no distortion at all (thanks to the semi-open back I think because the bass distortion on the 770 seems to be caused by not quite having enough air flow through the cups), fuller mids, clearer detail, and a slightly more airy sound.


Edited by devhen - 6/3/13 at 4:59am
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The fiio e12 and c&c bh gets painfully loud for me with a good source before 50-60% of the volume. This is with 250ohm dt880
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It depends on which amp you're talking about and what you consider ear-bleeding levels but I would think for most people, and most portable amps, you'll get enough volume. I've actually been surprised how at how loud my 250 ohm 880s get even connected directly to my Galaxy S2 smartphone. They don't *quite* get as loud as I would like them to, but closer than I thought they would. Based on that I would say most portable amps will be adequate except for maybe very weak ones like the Fiio E6.

 

Do you mean the DT770? The 770 is closed so it isolates way better. The 770 tends to have a bit more bass and has more recessed mids. In fact let me just quote myself as I described my experience with the two a few posts ago...

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Leonarfd View Post

The fiio e12 and c&c bh gets painfully loud for me with a good source before 50-60% of the volume. This is with 250ohm dt880


Thank you both, very helpful.

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Originally Posted by CheeseWithWorms View Post

Would i be able to drive the 250 ohm version to ear bleeding levels with a portable amp?

 

Also, how do they compare to the dt700?

You should be able to destroy a pair of 250 Ohm 'phones with the E12!

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I'm ordering the DT880 Pros right now a I speak. I can't wait to put these on!
 

Edit: They are now ordered, directly from Amazon.com as the seller and shipper. I'm excited L3000.gif


Edited by daleb - 6/5/13 at 9:21am
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Welcome to the Club. dt880smile.png
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I'm ordering the DT880 Pros right now a I speak. I can't wait to put these on!
 

Edit: They are now ordered, directly from Amazon.com as the seller and shipper. I'm excited L3000.gif

Then you have to do a Dual Entry Conversion... biggrin.gif

 

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Guys i bought a 250Ohm Pro for 140usd now i'm contemplating buying a 600Ohm for 60usd more and try to sell the 250Ohm later.

Should i do that? Is it worth it?

 

Also im interested in buying a DAC/AMP combo, which ones do you guys recommend me? I dont want to spend too much, but dont want to buy something i will want to upgrade later, like i want with the DT880

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Then you have to do a Dual Entry Conversion... biggrin.gif

 

Oh jeez, I'm not going to even think about modding these. They'll be my first headphones that cost over $100, so I'm taking as much care of these as I can.

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Originally Posted by daleb View Post

I'm ordering the DT880 Pros right now a I speak. I can't wait to put these on!
 

Edit: They are now ordered, directly from Amazon.com as the seller and shipper. I'm excited L3000.gif

 

It's funny how I still say that sometimes and I've had my DT880 for over two and a half years now. dt880smile.png

 

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Guys i bought a 250Ohm Pro for 140usd now i'm contemplating buying a 600Ohm for 60usd more and try to sell the 250Ohm later.

Should i do that? Is it worth it?

 

Also im interested in buying a DAC/AMP combo, which ones do you guys recommend me? I dont want to spend too much, but dont want to buy something i will want to upgrade later, like i want with the DT880

 

 

How long have you had the Pro? I'd say definitely make sure you like the DT880 sound before doing something like that. The differences between versions we've been discussing above are going to be very slight at best, so the 600 ohm version isn't going to be a revelation. It'll be a refinement of what you already have.

 

Incidentally, the Pro has a tighter clamping force than the Premium versions as well. Not sure how important that is to you, but I'm just throwing it out as a known difference.

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It's funny how I still say that sometimes and I've had my DT880 for over two and a half years now.

^ This, +1. E: Not quite as long as you've had yours tho. 3 months and counting. ^^; My primary set up is at work and at home I use the Beyer knockoffs, Technical Pro HPT-900 with an E17. They do well enough but I do get to missing my 880s & DV336se. biggrin.gif
Edited by MrEleventy - 6/5/13 at 12:59pm
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I got them for $220, I'm assuming that's a huge steal? tongue.gif

 

I don't believe I'll be able to go to the head-fi meet now though D:

I'd rather not get the chance to listen to the HD800s or something else equally as expensive.

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Originally Posted by Argyris View Post

 

It's funny how I still say that sometimes and I've had my DT880 for over two and a half years now. dt880smile.png

 

 

 

How long have you had the Pro? I'd say definitely make sure you like the DT880 sound before doing something like that. The differences between versions we've been discussing above are going to be very slight at best, so the 600 ohm version isn't going to be a revelation. It'll be a refinement of what you already have.

 

Incidentally, the Pro has a tighter clamping force than the Premium versions as well. Not sure how important that is to you, but I'm just throwing it out as a known difference.

 

Clamping force is fine and adjustable, what i was interested was in better sound. But with 600Ohms i believe i would be entering in the 400usd dacs and amps department.

With the 250 variant would a creative zxr or a essence stx suffice for gaming and occasional music listening?

 

How about a o2 amp?

 

Or a magni/modi combo?


Edited by douglatins - 6/5/13 at 1:38pm
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Originally Posted by douglatins View Post

 

Clamping force is fine and adjustable, what i was interested was in better sound. But with 600Ohms i believe i would be entering in the 400usd dacs and amps department.

With the 250 variant would a creative zxr or a essence stx suffice for gaming and occasional music listening?

 

How about a o2 amp?

 

Or a magni/modi combo?

 

With all of those amps the 250 ohm will sound just as good as the 600 ohm. We've been over this many, many times over the last few pages. The 600 ohm version works better with high output impedance amplifiers like OTL tube amps. Otherwise they are essentially identical in sound though some say the 600 ohm has very slightly smoother treble (others say the opposite, that the 250 ohm has slightly smoother treble, so it could very well just be driver variance). The only reason for you to go to the trouble and expense of selling your 250 ohm and getting the 600 ohm is if you plan on using something like an OTL tube amp. Even then you might find that the difference is negligible. The only other difference is the clamping force which is slightly tighter on the 250 ohm Pro. Oh, and the 250 ohm Pro comes with a coiled cable while the 600 ohm Premium would have a straight cable.

 

TL;DR: Forget about it. Your 250 ohm Pro will sound just as good as the 600 ohm version would. Its not worth the trouble to chase after the 600 ohm superiority myth if you've already got the 250 ohm Pro.


Edited by devhen - 6/5/13 at 1:51pm
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