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post #2836 of 10532

OMG, don't start all that stuff! I ran away from the HE-500 thread, and to some degree from the headphone itself, because all this modding and swapping pads stuff was making my head spin. The great thing about the 880 is it's all of a piece; it's just fine as it is, and super comfortable. You can stick any pad you like on there, but it's unlikely to sound better than the one Beyer engineers decided on no doubt after much experimentation.

 

In any case the Hifiman velours are hard and uncomfortable.

post #2837 of 10532

I also found the HiFiMAN velours to be very stiff. I got some black DT990 pads to put on my HE400s and I didn't like the sound, despite the massively increased comfort. I ended up returning the HE400s, if you were wondering. I would never, ever put HFM pads on the DT880s. In fact I would never put them on anything. Also they are a bit wider than the DT880 pads and might not fit snugly. I had to actually trim the black plastic ring from the HE400 pads just so I could fit the DT990 pads on. Keep that in mind.

post #2838 of 10532

I'm considering picking up a pair of these bad boys. One thing I am wondering is whether my Audioengine D1 can drive them (the specs are below). My guess is no but I've never had high impedance headphones so I really don't know and I figured I'd ask you guys. If the answer is as I suspect, do you guys have any cheap amp recommendations? 

 

 

DAC type

Dual Mode USB and Optical (SPDIF)
 

Inputs

USB/Optical (SPDIF)
 

Outputs

RCA stereo/3.5mm headphone
 

D/A converter

AKM4396
 

Optical receiver

CS8416
 

USB controller

TI1020B
 

USB

Type 1.1 or above
 

Full-scale output

2.0V RMS (RCA and Headphone)
 

Output impedance

47 ohms RCA, 10 ohms headphone
 

Power source

USB 5V
 

Power requirements

200mA
 

USB power filtering

2-stage redundant regulation
 

SNR

>110db
 

THD+N

<0.002%
 

Crosstalk

<-85db
 

Frequency response

10Hz - 25KHz +/- 0.5db
 

Input bit depth

up to 24 bits
 

Input data rate

up to 192KS/s (optical), 96KS/s (USB)
 

Product dimensions

3.5x4x1"
 

Shipping weight

1.0lbs (0.5kg)
 

Environmental

  • Operating Temperature: 32 to 95 degrees F
  • Non-operating Temp: -4 to 113 degrees F
  • Relative Humidity: 5% to 95% non-condensing
 

Included accessories

  • USB cable, 2ft
  • Setup Guide
  • Microfiber bag
 

D1 USB

The D1 utilizes the TI1020B USB controller, widely recognized as a standard for higher-end USB audio products. The D1 is powered directly from the USB bus and USB power is passed through two stages of regulation to ensure high stability and low noise.
 

D1 DAC

The D1 uses the AK4396 DAC, well regarded for its low noise and high fidelity. Due to the high signal-to-noise specs of the AK4396 and the added benefit of double redundancy power source conversion and filtering, the D1 presents impressive low noise and low distortion characteristics.
 

D1 Headphone

The D1 includes a headphone amp based on the TI NE5532 low noise opamp. This headphone amp is able to provide low-impedance, high-fidelity audio to a wide range of headphones and supports headphones with impedance as low as 20 ohms.
post #2839 of 10532
Quote:
Originally Posted by pp312 View Post

OMG, don't start all that stuff! I ran away from the HE-500 thread, and to some degree from the headphone itself, because all this modding and swapping pads stuff was making my head spin. The great thing about the 880 is it's all of a piece; it's just fine as it is, and super comfortable. You can stick any pad you like on there, but it's unlikely to sound better than the one Beyer engineers decided on no doubt after much experimentation.

 

In any case the Hifiman velours are hard and uncomfortable.

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by yokken View Post

I also found the HiFiMAN velours to be very stiff. I got some black DT990 pads to put on my HE400s and I didn't like the sound, despite the massively increased comfort. I ended up returning the HE400s, if you were wondering. I would never, ever put HFM pads on the DT880s. In fact I would never put them on anything. Also they are a bit wider than the DT880 pads and might not fit snugly. I had to actually trim the black plastic ring from the HE400 pads just so I could fit the DT990 pads on. Keep that in mind.

 

I can vouch for the comfort of the Beyer pads, actually my question was part of a process to find a suitable pair of earpads for my GMP not the DT880.

I wouldn't change the Beyer earpads neither I just want to know how the Hifiman earpads could influence the sound on the Beyer so that I could have an idea of how they could influence the GMP, since both of these headphones react similarly to different sets of pads.

The Beyer pads on my GMP make for an excessivelly bright sound, but pretty good extended and linear bass, mids are OK but thinned out by the treble uneveness...

So I was wondering if the Hifiman pads could give me a similar sound but with a smother treble, that would be perfect.

The mounting ring of the GMPs is also a bit big than the Beyers so no problem fitting bigger pads.

I can't EQ for all uses unfortunatelly.

 

No one really tried the Hifimans pads, then?

I just want a straight answer, yes or no.

If yes, how did it sound?

post #2840 of 10532

Sorry for "double post," but I pulled the trigger on some DT 880/600's and I feel like I must celebrate with another post, haha. I'm hoping that they will be a solid compliment to my Grado 325is. My only question now is how to drive them. I'm looking to spend under $250 (preferably in the $100-200 range). Can anyone suggest an amp in that price range that will properly drive the DT 880s? Is there a consensus whether a tube or SS amp would be better? For what it's worth I wouldn't mind the warmer sound I understand I would receive from a tube amp, but is there even a decent tube amp in that price range? 

 

Seems like my options my include: 

 

JDS Labs 02

FiiO E12

Little Dot MKIII

 

Any preferences among these 3? 

 

Thanks all! 

 

P.S. If anyone has any experience using the Audioengine D1 with the DT 880/600's I would be interested to hear what you think. Like I said, I'm assuming the D1 simply cannot drive the 600 OHM version, but I wouldn't mind some confirmation as to that point. 


Edited by traehekat - 2/26/13 at 2:55pm
post #2841 of 10532
Quote:
Originally Posted by kkl10 View Post

I wouldn't change the Beyer earpads neither I just want to know how the Hifiman earpads could influence the sound on the Beyer so that I could have an idea of how they could influence the GMP, since both of these headphones react similarly to different sets of pads.

 

No one really tried the Hifimans pads, then?

I just want a straight answer, yes or no.

If yes, how did it sound?

 

I haven't tried them, but I think they would make the bass more present since they're stiffer. They may also improve soundstage due to moving the cups a bit further away from your ears. Apart from that, I'm not sure.

 

 

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by traehekat View Post

Sorry for "double post," but I pulled the trigger on some DT 880/600's and I feel like I must celebrate with another post, haha. I'm hoping that they will be a solid compliment to my Grado 325is. My only question now is how to drive them. I'm looking to spend under $250 (preferably in the $100-200 range). Can anyone suggest an amp in that price range that will properly drive the DT 880s? Is there a consensus whether a tube or SS amp would be better? For what it's worth I wouldn't mind the warmer sound I understand I would receive from a tube amp, but is there even a decent tube amp in that price range? 

 

Seems like my options my include: 

 

JDS Labs 02

FiiO E12

Little Dot MKIII

 

Any preferences among these 3? 

 

Thanks all! 

 

P.S. If anyone has any experience using the Audioengine D1 with the DT 880/600's I would be interested to hear what you think. Like I said, I'm assuming the D1 simply cannot drive the 600 OHM version, but I wouldn't mind some confirmation as to that point. 

 

I think the D1 would easily drive them to listenable levels, but you could probably get a better sound for the same amount of money. If you just want an amp, I'd go with the E12 or a Little Dot. My E17 pairs well with them and it has something like 1/4 the power of the E12. It definitely doesn't push them to their maximum potential, but their sound is quite enjoyable, and this is coming from the guy who uses them with his Lyr every day.

post #2842 of 10532
Quote:
Originally Posted by traehekat View Post

Sorry for "double post," but I pulled the trigger on some DT 880/600's and I feel like I must celebrate with another post, haha. I'm hoping that they will be a solid compliment to my Grado 325is. My only question now is how to drive them. I'm looking to spend under $250 (preferably in the $100-200 range). Can anyone suggest an amp in that price range that will properly drive the DT 880s? Is there a consensus whether a tube or SS amp would be better? For what it's worth I wouldn't mind the warmer sound I understand I would receive from a tube amp, but is there even a decent tube amp in that price range? 

Seems like my options my include: 

JDS Labs 02
FiiO E12
Little Dot MKIII

Any preferences among these 3? 

Thanks all! 

P.S. If anyone has any experience using the Audioengine D1 with the DT 880/600's I would be interested to hear what you think. Like I said, I'm assuming the D1 simply cannot drive the 600 OHM version, but I wouldn't mind some confirmation as to that point. 


I like my DT880s with my La Figaro 336C.
This tube amp has quite a few fans with 600 Ohm DT owners.
post #2843 of 10532

I'll just leave this here:

 

post #2844 of 10532
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris J View Post

I like my DT880s with my La Figaro 336C.
This tube amp has quite a few fans with 600 Ohm DT owners.

 

Yes, a must have with these phones. I've been through a handful of amps and an OTL tube amp, preferably with a Tung Sol 5998 is by far the best combo.

post #2845 of 10532
Quote:
Originally Posted by Graphicism View Post

 

Yes, a must have with these phones. I've been through a handful of amps and an OTL tube amp, preferably with a Tung Sol 5998 is by far the best combo.

 

Of course if you'd bought the 250 ohm version like I did you wouldn't have any of these problems.  tongue.gif

post #2846 of 10532
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Originally Posted by pp312 View Post

Of course if you'd bought the 250 ohm version like I did you wouldn't have any of these problems.  tongue.gif

 

Who said it was a problem? I've also tested the 250s and while not as good similar results can be had pairing them with such amps.

post #2847 of 10532
Quote:
Originally Posted by pp312 View Post

 

Of course if you'd bought the 250 ohm version like I did you wouldn't have any of these problems.  tongue.gif

 

Right back at ya! tongue.gif

 

Not too sure what this has to do with 250 vs. 600 Ohm DT880s!

              Please expand!  confused_face_2.gif

post #2848 of 10532

I think he's saying that the 250 ohms don't need as much amping. rolleyes.gif

post #2849 of 10532
Quote:
Originally Posted by yokken View Post

I think he's saying that the 250 ohms don't need as much amping. rolleyes.gif

 

That's even more ambiguous and confusing!  LOL!

 

Thyey both need the same amount of power to achieve a given SPL.

post #2850 of 10532
Quote:
Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

I'll just leave this here:

 

Another James Blake fan on Head-Fi, I like it!

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