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post #2641 of 8357

Oh believe me, I have some FLAC, I even got a Bon Iver album in 24/96 vinyl. But I just can't justify the massive increase in size for very marginal increase in quality. 320kbps sounds pretty damn good.

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no, but you can just use ctrl+a then copy paste it in to the gogle translator. There is also an option to copy the URL but im not sure how myself.

 

I was kidding. tongue.gif

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Oh lol missed the comment before tongue_smile.gif

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Oh believe me, I have some FLAC, I even got a Bon Iver album in 24/96 vinyl. But I just can't justify the massive increase in size for very marginal increase in quality. 320kbps sounds pretty damn good.

 

 

 

Its not about quality. 320kpbs vs FLAC version of the same CD is not gonna sound that much different. The point is, those almubs that were from beginning made to be hi-res, or SACD, are differently recorded, and differently mastered. For example, the difference between the CD version and SACD version of Diana Krall albums I have is quite big, it just sounds more natural, much more dynamic, soundstage is bigger, everything is more detailed, fast, immediate, but at the same time very smooth and realistic sounding. That's not because SACD is better than CD. Its because SACD album has been mastered differently. Its like comparing 3D 1080p (SACD) to 1080p (typical 24/192 hi-res) video to 720p (FLAC) 720p still looks great, but 1080p is something that is just gorgeous to watch, and 3D will blow you away by bringing a whole different dimension to movies. Same with SACD.

post #2645 of 8357

Yeah, vinyls used to be mastered differently because they have a lot more potential for fidelity than CDs. I'm sure SACDs are the same. But I don't buy CDs, nor would I buy SACDs. I realize they might sound even better but it's not worth the cost for me to have a few albums on SACD.

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Yeah, vinyls used to be mastered differently because they have a lot more potential for fidelity than CDs. I'm sure SACDs are the same. But I don't buy CDs, nor would I buy SACDs. I realize they might sound even better but it's not worth the cost for me to have a few albums on SACD.


This is patently not true.  Digital recordings have, by definition, the potential for greater fidelity than trying to physically reproduce an analog sound wave in plastic .... and expect it to not degrade with the initial and all subsequent playings.

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Tried a fun thing at a local store here that got a high end analog rig for about 100 000 and some really expensive speakers for more. We chained ADC-->DAC-->ADC-->DAC in the chain before the amp. It was cheap behringer DAC and an local ADC at the store worth 200$ each. The sound with and without was not noticable an dwe had so fun doing it as the owner of the store who is in to this was really annoying always boosting about analog equipment. My friend almost lost his workplace after that due the experiment after we revealed it to him after some days with the chain in and out to test now and then.
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Originally Posted by yokken View Post

Yeah, vinyls used to be mastered differently because they have a lot more potential for fidelity than CDs. I'm sure SACDs are the same. But I don't buy CDs, nor would I buy SACDs. I realize they might sound even better but it's not worth the cost for me to have a few albums on SACD.


This is patently not true.  Digital recordings have, by definition, the potential for greater fidelity than trying to physically reproduce an analog sound wave in plastic .... and expect it to not degrade with the initial and all subsequent playings.

 

+1

 

Recordings on vinyl don't have the resolution of even 16-bit CDDA. And, they never will because of the limitations of the medium itself. Whether or not this is beneficial is up to the listener.

post #2649 of 8357

Well, consider me wrong then. But as far as I know, records are more carefully mastered and usually sound better, balanced sound-wise, than CDs. But I don't really know much about the subject so I'm not going to pretend to.

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Well, consider me wrong then. But as far as I know, records are more carefully mastered and usually sound better, balanced sound-wise, than CDs. But I don't really know much about the subject so I'm not going to pretend to.

 

If they sound better to you, doesn't that mean they really are better? Yours opinion is the only one that matters.

 

I was referring to resolution only as a technicality. I think it means a CD could sound better. It certainly doesn't mean a CD will sound better. To me, that is.

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I don't really know much about the subject so I'm not going to pretend to.

 

Wow. Now there's an example we could all follow, yours truly not excluded. tongue.gif

post #2652 of 8357
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But as far as I know, records are more carefully mastered and usually sound better, balanced sound-wise, than CDs. 

 

I don't think that's a reliable measure anymore. Many labels use the same master with only minor tweaks for the final media encoding - so you end up with the same loudness wars mess. 

 

Better to shop by label, than by the media. 

post #2653 of 8357

What is a good amp for these? 200-300 range?

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What is a good amp for these? 200-300 range?

 

There are many. Checkout the O2 and the Lake People G103. Others will have more suggestions.

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What is a good amp for these? 200-300 range?

 

Bottlehead Crack is my favorite amp for these.

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