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I have searched some prices and what do you know, stax is not that much out of the range, provided they perform accordingly to their pricetag that would be worth it. 

 

My Problem is that I begin toloathe the veiled, dull heights on my HD25 and as my musical variety has shifted since I boughtthem am looking for getting that fixed without spending a fortune. Hm, what is important to me... I hae heard several cans described by others as being  "warm" - and hated them instantly. I also tried the K701 of a close relative for quite a while (and yes, it was driven from a fitting amp, the man has a rhinelander) and disliked it for being flat at the lower end. No punch, no forward precision. The soundstage is not that important, A bit less "in the head" compared to the HD25 would be a nice bonus. I searched and looked and read - and still have absolutely no Idea. I knew of the HD25's dissatisfying heights when buying it- but as I listened to metal and electronica mostly then that was in myopinion alright and the fabulous punch and energy seemed to compensate. Nowadays I find  myself enjoying classics and jarr to a much greater degree then when I bought it andam thus looking into... well, imagine a crossbreed between the HD25 and the K701, there you have it. As for grado: They seem to me as a somewhat exclusive non-EU-thing. Ridiculously overpriced here, an SR-60 goes for 139€ in germany. AlsoI was looking into something that was more capable for extended listening (and compatible with myhated glasses), so again:grado's out. Beyers seemed the choice of the moment, but still... I've no idea.   

 

Too bad that my wallet refuses to grow accordingly. 


I'm not entirely convinced you will love the DT880, as the strengths of both the hD25 and the K701 lie in their mids and tone. The DT880 has detail and soundstage, like the K701, and does have more bass, but the mids are relatively neutral and "boring".

 

Have you heard the HD600? I recently listened to them at a meet and really liked them. They're right about the same price used so they're worth looking into.


X2, I too am not convinced the DT880 is for you. The issues I have with the DT880 (I am even thinking of selling them) is the neutrality and politeness of them. Also, vocals/mids are not so much outside your head, but inside.

 

The HD600 might be a pretty good choice for you actually.

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I have searched some prices and what do you know, stax is not that much out of the range, provided they perform accordingly to their pricetag that would be worth it. 

 

My Problem is that I begin toloathe the veiled, dull heights on my HD25 and as my musical variety has shifted since I boughtthem am looking for getting that fixed without spending a fortune. Hm, what is important to me... I hae heard several cans described by others as being  "warm" - and hated them instantly. I also tried the K701 of a close relative for quite a while (and yes, it was driven from a fitting amp, the man has a rhinelander) and disliked it for being flat at the lower end. No punch, no forward precision. The soundstage is not that important, A bit less "in the head" compared to the HD25 would be a nice bonus. I searched and looked and read - and still have absolutely no Idea. I knew of the HD25's dissatisfying heights when buying it- but as I listened to metal and electronica mostly then that was in myopinion alright and the fabulous punch and energy seemed to compensate. Nowadays I find  myself enjoying classics and jarr to a much greater degree then when I bought it andam thus looking into... well, imagine a crossbreed between the HD25 and the K701, there you have it. As for grado: They seem to me as a somewhat exclusive non-EU-thing. Ridiculously overpriced here, an SR-60 goes for 139€ in germany. AlsoI was looking into something that was more capable for extended listening (and compatible with myhated glasses), so again:grado's out. Beyers seemed the choice of the moment, but still... I've no idea.   

 

Too bad that my wallet refuses to grow accordingly. 


I'm not entirely convinced you will love the DT880, as the strengths of both the hD25 and the K701 lie in their mids and tone. The DT880 has detail and soundstage, like the K701, and does have more bass, but the mids are relatively neutral and "boring".

 

Have you heard the HD600? I recently listened to them at a meet and really liked them. They're right about the same price used so they're worth looking into.


X2, I too am not convinced the DT880 is for you. The issues I have with the DT880 (I am even thinking of selling them) is the neutrality and politeness of them. Also, vocals/mids are not so much outside your head, but inside.

 

The HD600 might be a pretty good choice for you actually.



I have tried the HD600 in the store, admittadly under less than ideal circumstance, and found it displaying the very same things I disliked at the HD25: veiled heights. I'm very close to getting the DT150, as it according to several reviews seems to be displaying what I'm looking for. As for the HD25s strength being the mids that might be true, but its "base level", "lower mids", whatever its called, is what really gets me. Clearer heights and precision all around, this strange feeling of it being "fast" that the HD25 generates in the midrange, that is what I'd like to combine with clearer, brighter heights.  

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I see. I must admit that was the reason I preferred the DT880 to the HD600. The DT880 reaches both lower and higher. :-)

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I ended up buying the DT880's even though I hadn't sold my 701's yet (although I'm pretty sure I have a buyer now) because I continued checking and even Amazon had theirs up to $319. Just a few days ago they were $269! I asked an on-line merchant if they did price matching and they gave me their best offer which wasn't as low as Amazon was at the time but ended up being just a little lower than what Amazon and B&H went up to so I jumped on it. By this time next week they might be up to $349 the way it's going. Oh well, I'll have them in my hands on Tuesday and will be enjoying them as soon as I can get them out of the box.

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After quite a bit of searching and comparing return policies I had pretty much decided on ordering a pair from B&H because they were the same price as Amazon ($249.99) but Amazon was out of stock. So today I'm checking on Amazon to see if they've gotten any in and they have not plus the price is now $269 but B&H has gone up to $319! I guess I missed out on the lower prices. Rats.



Unlucky! I paid $249 from BH and almost ordered the 990s for $219 and now they're up at $319...

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I ended up buying the DT880's even though I hadn't sold my 701's yet (although I'm pretty sure I have a buyer now) because I continued checking and even Amazon had theirs up to $319. Just a few days ago they were $269! I asked an on-line merchant if they did price matching and they gave me their best offer which wasn't as low as Amazon was at the time but ended up being just a little lower than what Amazon and B&H went up to so I jumped on it. By this time next week they might be up to $349 the way it's going. Oh well, I'll have them in my hands on Tuesday and will be enjoying them as soon as I can get them out of the box.

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After quite a bit of searching and comparing return policies I had pretty much decided on ordering a pair from B&H because they were the same price as Amazon ($249.99) but Amazon was out of stock. So today I'm checking on Amazon to see if they've gotten any in and they have not plus the price is now $269 but B&H has gone up to $319! I guess I missed out on the lower prices. Rats.



Unlucky! I paid $249 from BH and almost ordered the 990s for $219 and now they're up at $319...


 


The DT880/600 has a history of jumping between $330 and $250. When I was in the market it jumped up for about two weeks, then went back down.

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I use my DT-880s with an amp known for its warmth in the mids - the HR-2. I did this intentionally so that when listening to this combination  - the mids are great (from the amp) but then the highs and lows are presented as wonderfully too (DT-880s). Best of both worlds...

 

I read a few reviews here to realize that many people enjoyed the combination of these two-- that there was a special synergy. So I do think it really depends on what amp you are going to match the DT880s with.  

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Another great amp for DT880/600 to bring out the mid and fortify bass is Decware's CSP2+  It is OTL SET tube amp.  It has the magic of tube but also extremely clear and transparent at the same time.   Very engaging and sounds intimately.   To me (sometimes) it is the best of both world.

 

Still Phoenix in balanced mode excels in focusing.  I often prefer one to the other and then preference switches a few days later.wink.gif  It is very hard to say which one is better everyday.

 

And if you are willing to recable, definitely try the ZXAC's cable.  It is very reasonable and totally take away the coldness in SQ.

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...without reading through the entire thread is there a favorite amp to use with these? Has anyone heard them with the Darkvoice 336i? ~ they sound great but as always I'm itching to try something new.

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I see. I must admit that was the reason I preferred the DT880 to the HD600. The DT880 reaches both lower and higher. :-)



 

And Idea how the DT880 compares to the DT150? I seem to like the more "analytical", "colder" sound of studio phones, but don't want to miss the bass and lower middle. 

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Hmm, I think I read how someone described one of the closed offerings from GMP as cold and analytical... I forgot who did and which one, though... I think you should look at closed studio headphones, to be honest.

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Hmm, I think I read how someone described one of the closed offerings from GMP as cold and analytical... I forgot who did and which one, though... I think you should look at closed studio headphones, to be honest.


I've been browsind and reading for appr. three weeks now, and it has narrowed down to DT150s. I'm still unsure about wether the analytical studiosound is right, some musicality has to be in there too. I am unsure about the terms to describe sound, is there such a thing as a glossary for that somewhere? The HD600, 650 and my HD25 seem to have the same feature I dislike, the feeling of slightly dulled heights. Like a fluffy woolen carpet instead of the hardboard floor I want. K701 lacks lower range and the headstage is almost too big for me, K271s on the other hand are not my case either. Too recessed bass and lower middle, they seem to have somewhat of an accent on the higher midrange. Might be awesome for vocals, but I don't like it. 

 

GMP meaning German Maestro? Hm, the last time I read anything about them they still were called MB-quart. I'll read up on these, thanks for mentioning them. 

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I don't know if you want the DIY route but the MS1000 has the soundstage of the K701 with more bass (as much as you desire with the current mods), but it's not really cold and analytical. Especially with the latest mods they sound playful and groovy. :-)

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I don't know if you want the DIY route but the MS1000 has the soundstage of the K701 with more bass (as much as you desire with the current mods), but it's not really cold and analytical. Especially with the latest mods they sound playful and groovy. :-)



 If possible I'd like to avoid anything that ships from overseas. The price is attractive nevertheless though, who knows. Still looking for more info on the DT150. 

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well i haven't been keeping up with this thread but thought i'd throw my 2c in...

 

i sold my m3 amp and built a 2ch b22 to replace it...

 

my opinion is that the b22 powers the 600z 880s far better than the m3. Voltage swing indeed appears to be king with these phones..

 

the 880s are revitalised thru this amp... they sound a lot closer to the 990s... bass all of a sudden... is there!

 

previously i preferred my 990-600s to the 880s as the 990s were just more musical... the 880s were always flat and thin ...now...

 

880s hands down... the 990s amped carry too much treble energy for my liking... it can clash a bit... the 880s control it better..

 

just my opinion i wanna make this clear.. not interested in another amp war... I don't care what someone 'thinks'...or contra points.. just my report on my experience and preference... 

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In less than forty eight hours and I'll be listening to my 600 ohmers via a Matrix M-Stage and I'll be happy to report how they sound to me. I know some folks say it takes a tubed amp to get the best sound but there's no way I could get away with buying a different amp after getting the Matrix last month. I'm sure they'll sound just fine. 

 

On a slightly different note, I've been without a decent pair of headphones since Friday when I sold my 701's and I must say I don't care for it. By the time the Beyers get here it will have been 96+ hours. That's just uncalled for. dt880smile.png

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