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post #16 of 3592
7/1/09 at 10:45am
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Originally Posted by ZoNtO View Post
Since these are 600 ohm headphones, can you guys suggest a list of amps that have enough juice to synergize well with them? I'm considering these as my first can (along with K701/2 and Grado HF2). Figure it would be good info for the thread too.

Thanks!
Any good tube amp will drive them well, They really prefer tubes, its logical due to their 600ohm impedance.
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post #17 of 3592
7/1/09 at 11:41am
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Originally Posted by ZoNtO View Post
Since these are 600 ohm headphones, can you guys suggest a list of amps that have enough juice to synergize well with them?
the higher the impedance, the easier it is to drive...that's what amp manufacturers say anyway.
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Originally Posted by GuyDebord View Post
They really prefer tubes, its logical due to their 600ohm impedance.
when? how? why? got any measurements/link to backup this statement? I believe you forgot "IMHO YMMV"
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post #18 of 3592
7/1/09 at 11:45am
The Jmoney Audio pads don't seem to be available yet. Any info for the release (if there will be any)?
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post #19 of 3592
7/1/09 at 11:50am
Actually, there is a very good technical reason for GuyDebord's statement. Very simply states, many tube amps are very good as supplying voltage, which is what a 600 ohm headphone will want. Many SS amps are better at supplying current, which is what a low impedance can will want, but less good at supplying enough voltage for a 600 ohm can, although I have had good results with both.
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post #20 of 3592
7/1/09 at 12:25pm
I'm not quite an amp expert, but as long as you got something decent(not a mp3 player) a high impedance doesn't appear to be a problem...actually driving low impedance(like 32Ω or less) phones is far more complicated, coz you might very well end up w/ a saturated bass-shy sound

again I'm only repeating what amp manufacturers say, they never give a max impedance...always minimum.
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post #21 of 3592
7/1/09 at 2:12pm
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Originally Posted by leeperry View Post
I'm not quite an amp expert, but as long as you got something decent(not a mp3 player) a high impedance doesn't appear to be a problem...actually driving low impedance(like 32Ω or less) phones is far more complicated, coz you might very well end up w/ a saturated bass-shy sound

again I'm only repeating what amp manufacturers say, they never give a max impedance...always minimum.
You got it all backwards! you should do some research before posting on technicalities, seriously!

I dont need to put IMHO for a technical "fact", tube amps have the capacity to deliver more voltage and therefore drive higher impedances with ease, compared to normal SS amps. Obviously there are always exceptions, my Lehmann and Solo SRG drives them well, but I still prefer my tube amps for the 600ohm Beyers, they sing in perfect relaxation, the music just flows....

There is no way you could drive a 600ohm headphone well with a portable amp, obviously a portable player is out of the question....

Next time before you shout on something you clearly dont know about, at least wiki,
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post #22 of 3592
7/1/09 at 2:13pm
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Originally Posted by Skylab View Post
Actually, there is a very good technical reason for GuyDebord's statement. Very simply states, many tube amps are very good as supplying voltage, which is what a 600 ohm headphone will want. Many SS amps are better at supplying current, which is what a low impedance can will want, but less good at supplying enough voltage for a 600 ohm can, although I have had good results with both.
Thanks Skylab!
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post #23 of 3592
7/1/09 at 2:57pm
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Originally Posted by GuyDebord View Post
You got it all backwards! you should do some research before posting on technicalities, seriously!
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you clearly dont know
oh ok, I see I'm dealing w/ an expert of the highest kind

where did I say that you could drive it w/ a portable amp

don't look, I never did..

all I said is that a SS amp can drive a 600ohmer just as well as tube...when making this kind of statements, it's usually better to add "IMHO YMMV"...because Skylab just confirmed that SS works just as fine as tube on his 600ohmers

but yeah, I know, tube is money! and it's cool to sound patronizing on an internet forum...godverdomme
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post #24 of 3592
7/1/09 at 3:02pm
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Originally Posted by leeperry View Post
oh ok, I see I'm dealing w/ an expert of the highest kind
No expert, just a bit informed

cheers,
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post #25 of 3592
7/1/09 at 3:34pm
Just to be clear - *some* SS amps work fine with the 600 ohm Beyers - but I do think tube amps are a better choice, it it's a possibility for the user.
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post #26 of 3592
7/1/09 at 5:31pm
This is maybe not the right thread for this, but would lavry da10 work good with the Beyers?
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post #27 of 3592
7/1/09 at 8:05pm
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Originally Posted by Bredin View Post
This is maybe not the right thread for this, but would lavry da10 work good with the Beyers?
yes, it can power them, but still the limitations of the DA10 as a head amp apply x 1.5. most stationary SS amps can drive them, but again my recommendation is to go tube for this, the music magically flows and floats around your ears....
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post #28 of 3592
7/2/09 at 3:41am
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Originally Posted by GuyDebord View Post
yes, it can power them, but still the limitations of the DA10 as a head amp apply x 1.5.
What do you mean with x1.5? 1.5times louder, or 1.5times better?

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most stationary SS amps can drive them, but again my recommendation is to go tube for this, the music magically flows and floats around your ears....
I think that music is at is best when it is like a brick, solid and well-defiend.
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post #29 of 3592
7/2/09 at 11:34pm
I'm actually liking my 600Ohm DT880's paired with the X-CanV8P very much. Hopefully my amp is doing them some justice..
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post #30 of 3592
7/4/09 at 4:21pm
anybody have it balanced? is gs-x a good choice? maybe rpx300 match better with beyer?
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