Are (High-end) Custom IEMs Overrated? - Page 21  

I know countless people with BMW's (among other manufacturers), in truth, there's no humongous differentiate among different manufacturers between how much the car costs them at the dealership or how often they need fixing. And about the ECU, maybe someone ignorant would pay to have their ECU reset. A friend of mine had to deal with this issue not long ago. He purchased a pre-tuned ECU (for his exact model BMW, 330D) for £50 off eBay and fitted it himself (took about 1 minute). Honestly, if you do your research, you can save a bob irrespective of the car. But ALL dealerships will try and wallet rape consumers. It's just normal business practise, and to assume it's manufacturer unique is just plain ignorant. Anyway, we'll leave it at that.

Edited by Naim.F.C - 7/5/11 at 5:02pm

THE BEST car I ever owned was a 1995 BMW E36 M3, I bought it "2nd hand" when it was 12 years old with 30K miles on it.  Never once did I take it to the dealer for repair work & thanks to the net any issues that I had, I could figure them out and resolve them on my own.  There are are many web sites, much like this one, devoted to BMW fans, & even YouTube has tons of videos dedicated to repairing BMWs.  So DIY & this can save you a lot of money.... (as with most things)

 

BTW, I never really did any major repairs on my BMW, I mostly did up-grades, such as a new tuned chip, cool air intake, new plugs etc etc...

 

Doesn't TATA own Jaguar?

 

Any how, CIEMs are not over rated, they perform well for their niche, just as any niche product does.

 

Seriosly, I hate CANS, but that is because I do not have the life style required to appreciate them. I would never get on a plane and pull out some huge CANS, might as well strap a lunch box on my head.

 

 But there are a lot of folks that love cans....  but I would say they are "over rated" because they don't match my criteria of what a good portable audio product should do.

 

The target of perfection moves from one person to the next, neither is wrong or right.

Edited by FullCircle - 7/5/11 at 6:01pm

I want you to come back and quote me, because I guarantee you will go "Wow" when you listen to the JH16 and realize how much better they are than what you've heard so far.

 

No offense, but reading this made me chuckle, given that even the JH13 have a bass hump (confirmed by JHA). I haven't heard the JH16, so I can only imagine what those additional bass drivers will sound like. You must be a basshead, sir. The SE530 are among the least favorite IEMs in my collection, but they're actually rather balanced.

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The 16s put bass and drums front and center, which was the designers intent. They're blatantly colored, sport over-hyped bass, peaky treble and recessed mids. Certainly not portraying source material the way the recording artists meant for it to sound. That doesn't prevent it from catering to some people's tastes, but to claim that they're the paragon of balance and neutrality is just ridiculous.
 

 

I started a reply as well but had to reign in the horses.  I figured we had enough worm cans open already.  

 

^Teach me how to do that will you?

That's like asking Kobayashi how to make a hot dog.  

 

 

^Waiting for MG5Pro's review

  JH 16 = 4 Low drivers + 2 Mid Drivers + 2 High Frequency drivers

 

    I would expect a "a bump" in the lows, regardless, I do not doubt they offer a pleasurable experience.

 

They were made for loud stage use where the extremes get lost. It was consumers that saw them as the most expensive that elivated them to 'best'. Great for their designed use but not my fav in their line for just listening. In fact, I would rather listen to music on the JH5 without EQ. I like the jh13 more than James. The small bass bump is actually a sub bass bump at around 50hz and designed in to give a what Jerry believes is a better representation of bass when not an in ear. It's nothing like the warm big bass that is often praised as 'natural'.

Edited by goodvibes - 7/6/11 at 7:00am

^ Yeah, I read that it's supposed to be at 50Hz, but did you really hear it that way? dfkt and I both heard the hump at 100Hz. He had some dubstep track on his Clip and both the W4 and his UE11 had nice subbass with it. Only on the JH13-D the subbass was pretty much drowned out by midbass.

Yes at the UK Meet Amp City were there plugging UM customs and said that people may prefer the Miracle to the 13's due to the latter's mid-bass bump. I originally was obsessed about getting either 13's or 16's due to Head-Fi hype, but having read impressions from people like Average Joe who have heard multiple customs it knocked sense back into me seeing that they weren't the be-all/end-all of IEMs. No idea what to get now though, so much choice, sound sigs etc. Drives me up the wall.

Edited by Somnambulist - 7/6/11 at 11:29am