Are (High-end) Custom IEMs Overrated? - Page 20  

You will be shocked how much better the JH16's will be compared to your Shures, pretty much night and day difference, then you will ask yourself, why did I wait this long to go this route, and then, why did I just waste all this money on these Shures:), and it's not a 10% increase in quality, that is coming from people who wish they could buy a pair of JH16's, but can't, don't pay mind, trust me, your ears will let you know RIGHT AWAY it was a wise choice, your search for the perfect IEM has ENDED, so in the long run, you are saving money, by not wanting to try anything else, thinking that you are missing something, your search is OVER.

Another thing, make sure you feed them with a nice Amp, I use them with my Ipod Touch with a Fiio line out cable and iBasso D6, and D10 when I am on the go, and when home and not moving around, they are plugged into my Burson Audio HA-160, They also sound great just with the Ipod and no separate AMP, but an Amp makes them shine, losseless files are also a must, but slacker or Pandora will also sound fine " I hate compressed music".

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Originally Posted by macshooter 

Well I certainly hope that is not the case.  I kinda thought that about hi end audio people at first. It seemed like it all might be a case of the kings clothes,  just a club for people that had more money than sense and were looking for a ways to show it off. 

 

Then I discovered that there was really something to it with some good quality phones like the PX100 and later with the SE530.  I really enjoyed the dramatic increase in enjoyment I got from the extra detail and sound quality that had not been there before.  

 

Now I'm going from SE530 to JH16.  I am expecting about a x2 increase in overall sq, and will be quite disappointed if that is not the case.  If it's not a "wow" experience coming from the SE530, then I will feel like I got hosed.  However that won't prevent me from giving an honest opinion of them here (though I don't have any serious audiophile credentials).  I'm just an average guy looking for the best sound available and hoping I've found it. 

 

If ends up being a case of the kings clothes, or a ton of money for a 10% increase in sq over the SE530 I will not hesitate to say so. I'm not interested in being a fanboy, or trying to cover up spending a fortune on something that's not worth it by gushing about it.  I guess I will know the truth of this soon enough, and will post my findings here.  (after I have had some time to really listen to them.)

2x... well, lets just say its hard to quantify improvments in sound with X's and numbers
 

Sometime down the road I want to get the JH amp, but that will have to wait for a while.  Till then I have ordered a fiio e11 and a LOD for my iphone which has EQU installed. (great eq program!)  I know that amp isn't anywhere near the level of the JH16s, but I don't want to spend too much on an amp yet, knowing I am probably going to go for the good stuff later on.  I'm sure it will be a little better than my cmoy. 

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Originally Posted by macshooter 

Well I certainly hope that is not the case.  I kinda thought that about hi end audio people at first. It seemed like it all might be a case of the kings clothes,  just a club for people that had more money than sense and were looking for a ways to show it off. 

 

Then I discovered that there was really something to it with some good quality phones like the PX100 and later with the SE530.  I really enjoyed the dramatic increase in enjoyment I got from the extra detail and sound quality that had not been there before.  

 

Now I'm going from SE530 to JH16.  I am expecting about a x2 increase in overall sq, and will be quite disappointed if that is not the case.  If it's not a "wow" experience coming from the SE530, then I will feel like I got hosed.  However that won't prevent me from giving an honest opinion of them here (though I don't have any serious audiophile credentials).  I'm just an average guy looking for the best sound available and hoping I've found it. 

 

If ends up being a case of the kings clothes, or a ton of money for a 10% increase in sq over the SE530 I will not hesitate to say so. I'm not interested in being a fanboy, or trying to cover up spending a fortune on something that's not worth it by gushing about it.  I guess I will know the truth of this soon enough, and will post my findings here.  (after I have had some time to really listen to them.)

Seems like only time and personal experience will be able to tell on this one. I look forward to your impressions of the JH16's and if you think the cost is justified. Also, bear in mind that you are not only moving to a different level of sound clarity and whatnot, but also a different sound signature. This was something that took me a while to sort of "see through" when comparing the JH5's to my CK10's. It took some time for me to really be able to compare and determine if one was actually "better" or superior to the other aside from the very different ways they present the same songs. 

Sometimes it is hard to distinguish a new, and possibly preferred, sound signature from actual differences in quality that can be quantified in some meaningful way.

In regards to sound signature, the thing is the music will sound the way it was MEANT to sound, no colored or over-hyped with base treble mid and the sort, all you will hear is just pure clean sonic bliss. All instruments will sound like they are finally in their right place, with detail and clarity you can not experience with the most expensive universal IEM's. Hearing is believing.

BMW is overrated.

Hurray!
 

When are you going to get the ES5?

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Originally Posted by Anaxilus 

BMW is overrated.

Are you mad? They make some of the most efficiently engineered vehicles on the planet. A brand new BMW 320D comes in at 184bhp, 0-62mph in 7.5 seconds and with 60.1mpg combined. That's pretty much mind blowing if you ask me. Especially given how nippy the ride is. You're getting a whole lot of performance for very little juice.

Please I really don't want to start a flame war over this.   I will offer an honest first impression of them compared to the SE530 (which I have been listening to for well over a year now) when they arrive.  I should know immediately if they are worth the money.  It should be obvious, not a hair splitting affair where I have to hem and haw over subtle differences. I should be able to put them in and go "Wow, these are much better!" if they are really worth the money.    Subtle analysis beyond that will take weeks and months of listening so I will not do that.  Whatever is obviously better is what I will try to convey.

I'm [also] waiting for Kunlun's review before I decide. The ES5 is on the top of my custom list though.
 

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Originally Posted by music_4321 

No plans for a second pair of customs now, but if I was considering a second set, right now I'd probably go for the Future Sonics MG6PRO. The ES5 would be my second choice.

 

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Originally Posted by Naim.F.C 

Are you mad? They make some of the most efficiently engineered vehicles on the planet. A brand new BMW 320D comes in at 184bhp, 0-62mph in 7.5 seconds and with 55mpg combined. That's pretty much mind blowing if you ask me. Especially given how nippy the ride is. You're getting a whole lot of performance for very little juice.

Enjoy getting your BMW towed to the dealer where they will charge you an arm and a leg to change out your proprietary battery and reset your locked ECU.  I certainly hope you lease your Bimmer.  I'm not mad, I'm educated as the automotive degrees hanging on my wall would indicate.  Efficiency and benchmarks are easy to obtain when you don't build to last.  Plus I don't consider any German built car that adds 20% of it's cost as compensation to Deutsche Labor unions to be 'efficient' at all.  All that bang per buck will get sucked back out of your pocket at the dealership, don't worry.  Plus you can't even buy a 320d in the US if you wanted.  You need $45-$50k to get a 335d which makes no sense spending that much for 'efficiency'.  That's a pricey jack of all trades that masters none. If you don't care about 'status' or range then lease yourself a MiniE.  Plus if current trends continue Jag will outpace BMW in every imaginable metric.  At least they still incorporate luxury into their vehicles unlike Bimmer.      

My post was a bit of a truthful jest at the thread but if you want to get serious then post in the member's lounge.  There's about 2-3 threads where we rip into BMW and a few other makes.  I'm done discussing cars here.

Edit - The current year is 2011.  I fix my own cars which is why I don't and won't own a current production Bimmer.  This is fun article:

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/05/13/1052591776195.html