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post #16 of 54
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Originally Posted by johnwmclean View Post
The problem is the chuck within the XLR plug is clearly not going to be adequate with this gauge of the cable. Your right though they all have strain relief, if you’re referring to the chuck.
I use heatshrink with glue to make the cable that is going to fit in the strain relief thicker. Its will hold up nicely, at least it works for me.
post #17 of 54
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Originally Posted by johnwmclean View Post
Neutrix, hardly boutique nonsense.
You just need to adapt and overcome then. I've made the neutrik strain relief work with cables of all sorts of diameters. Hint: try trimming the chuck to reduce the amount of clamping force it tries to apply.
post #18 of 54
if you use plenty of flux with a solder pot or the tip trick I told you about and reasonably high heat, there should not be any residue left on the wire, the flux will carry it away. I agree that the cable is well designed for stock and one of the best i've seen as far as shielding etc, but 32AWG is still pretty piss-weak if you ask me.

yes the connector has been found, in the process of talking with the company about it. not cheap though
post #19 of 54
Is anyone really going to be getting anywhere close to running 500mA of current through the stock cable?
post #20 of 54
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Originally Posted by Edwood View Post
Is anyone really going to be getting anywhere close to running 500mA of current through the stock cable?
No but I think guys need more skin effect. Smooth highs, etc.
post #21 of 54
People also may want to try different metals or compounds - it's not just the gauge we're talking about here.
post #22 of 54
also if a thin silver (but still larger than this) solid-core wire (perhaps even rectangular or foil based) is used, there will be in fact LESS skin effect than a thin stranded wire
post #23 of 54
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Originally Posted by qusp View Post
also if a thin silver (but still larger than this) solid-core wire (perhaps even rectangular or foil based) is used, there will be in fact LESS skin effect than a thin stranded wire
post #24 of 54
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Originally Posted by Edwood View Post
Is anyone really going to be getting anywhere close to running 500mA of current through the stock cable?

Are we counting Kevin Gilmore or are "crazy people" excluded?
post #25 of 54
Exclude the crazy people, and there will be none left.
post #26 of 54
I'm with Nate. That's one of the more better designed/constructed cables I've seen.
I'd prefer a thicker conductor for any kind of DIY work, but I suppose that's irrelevant when they're being factory-terminated. It does a lot of things right that most after-market 'boutique' cables fall short in, and I like the round construction much better than those hd650-style zip cables, even if it adds some unnecessary bulk.
post #27 of 54
emphasis on rectangular, but I get your drift ED. the main thing for me is being able to choose the conductor and termination to a better quality connection. not that i'm even that tempted as yet to get these. the best construction of course to get rid of skin effect is many very thin individually insulated wires rather than regular stranded. but you are correct that my statement/wording there left me with my pants down to a degree note to self; do not post matter of fact statements when tired as buggery. stupid thing is, my head is spinning on all the R&D on skin effect ive been doing lately for digital cables. so many different opinions on it. I do like foil wires though.

as I stated earlier in the thread; it does appear to be a very well constructed cable for a stock cable; one of the best ive seen, so to improve on it, there is more required than just using better wire.

I do still feel its too thin though LOL, but thats just me
post #28 of 54
Wooo thats my picture up front on the OP's original post (cheese -cheese I know=) and is from when I togtherwith some local Sennheiser guys stripped the cable we where going to study and use for my balanced set (still no 'phone yet thought ) anywho... Its really as people said thought there seems to be different cable colors depending on what you strip down and which goes for which speaker. But the most white is always the return and the rest is easily mesured out with a multimeter. I solved the problem with the neutrik strain relief not catching on by using heatshrink tubes with glue to add an extra layer untop of the 4 wirepackeges. The 2 other wires of pure rubber are for structural design BTW - think of them like strain reliefs and such in the wire. Its due to the QA concept of Sennheiser where everthing has to be several times normal duability standards if possible - one of the reason Sennheiser doesn't do low-end products: simply impossible to make duable enough within the price segment.

Edit: connects was found to be ODU stuff btw at ca. 9 USD a peice but they are pretty strict about who and how many they want to sell and as far as I know there is quit some delay getting them.
post #29 of 54
^^ heah they have sent me the full catalogue of their stuff. man they do some pretty speccy stuff for robots etc. they sent me this massive high quality printed catalogue of their connectors in that range. not only did they send this huge package half way across the world for nothing; they sent it by DHL, so it was here in a matter of 3 days!! a massive catalogue with hundreds of high quality glossy prints in a big heavy duty ring binder.
post #30 of 54
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Originally Posted by MrMajestic2 View Post
I use heatshrink with glue to make the cable that is going to fit in the strain relief thicker. Its will hold up nicely, at least it works for me.
That was what I meant...
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