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Originally Posted by kothganesh View Post

I reached out to Wachara last night. He does not have like an instruction list or anything but advised me to read this:

http://headwize.com/?page_id=729

If you have anything simpler, would appreciate you sharing with us.

Thanks

Hi that article is really really good and almost a standard if there is one. I believe Wachara's builds are closer to perfection though.
You can read up any article on ESLs to understand the principle. I am away from home but will toss up links later.
In the meanwhile check Jazzman's DIY ESL. That is a whole new game altogether.
The only difference between ESLs and Estat headphones are bias voltage, size of diaphragm,spacer distance and headbands
All the very best
Edited by ayaflo - Today at 7:30 am
post #617 of 623
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I didn't understand the head and tail of what you just wrote..
Wachara doesn't measure his builds from what I know. innerfidelity measured his headphones for the first time and praised them comparing them to the sr009. he uses his ear to get where he is and the going is pretty darn good!!

 

in easy words:

 

there are 2 ways of making a good headphone :

 

1, you know what you are doing.

 

2. throwing different components at it to see if it improves sound

 

first one is engineer's approach. second one is modder's.

 

I dunno how hard concepts of headphone design are to grasp.

 

But being electrical engineer i can say fundamentals of building amp can be understood with enough study though no doubt its hard work. you should have a clear cut understanding if you want to act like engineer or modder to get fast results.

post #618 of 623
OK ..thanks I just found the first one jumbled!

Wachara uses a trial and error method but he has superceded many engineers at least that's what I would say from my.auditioning of his cans!! he has been active for a long time and had his share of hardships. But he is a great individual .
To me the toughest thing in my small scale build was finding substitute for products recommended in the article s I read online.
I know people who have not passed high school who know what they are doing and have so much knowledge , it makes me wonder why I went to college! wink.gif
Edited by ayaflo - Today at 7:52 am
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Originally Posted by ayaflo View Post

OK ..thanks I just found the first one jumbled!

Wachara uses a trial and error method but he has superceded many engineers at least that's what I would say from my.auditioning of his cans!! he has been active for a long time and had his share of hardships. But he is a great individual .
To me the toughest thing in my small scale build was finding substitute for products recommended in the article s I read online.
I know people who have not passed high school who know what they are doing and have so much knowledge , it makes me wonder why I went to college! wink.gif

 

its ok to use whichever approach works.

 

if I were to make headphone maybe I will take modders approach.

 

though for amp building I am confident engineers approach is the only way.

post #620 of 623
I don't really agree there is some kind of clear cut distinction between engineers approach and modders approach. Modders at some point have to give in to engineering things or designs. You have to know the in and out of everything that you are doing... There is no skipping especially when poor isolation can cost your life.
the only thing i wish I did learn was carpentry..... The possibilities with wood is just amazing.
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I don't really agree there is some kind of clear cut distinction between engineers approach and modders approach. Modders at some point have to give in to engineering things or designs. You have to know the in and out of everything that you are doing... There is no skipping especially when poor isolation can cost your life.
the only thing i wish I did learn was carpentry..... The possibilities with wood is just amazing.


anyone can take engineers approach as long as you know what you are doing.

 

the moment a modder starts understanding things, it becomes engineers approach

post #622 of 623
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anyone can take engineers approach as long as you know what you are doing.

the moment a modder starts understanding things, it becomes engineers approach

I m sorry but from where are you getting all this ?? Do you mean to say a modder doesn't understand what he is doing ? Just confused with all that you are posting
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I m sorry but from where are you getting all this ?? Do you mean to say a modder doesn't understand what he is doing ? Just confused with all that you are posting

 

you open up a headphone, spot a foam piece, cut it down to see what happens. thats modders approach.

 

if you know why that foam piece is there, and what will happen when you remove it, then its engineers approach.

 

simple.

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