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hell big names like woo audio who have international repute are boutique manufacturers offering hand made products

 

 

I disagree with you. The difference between boutique and a full blown brand is considerably big when it comes to such a specific domain like Audio.

Senns and AKGs have enough of a commercial aura to make products that cater to a not so bothersome consumer( like CX-180s and AKG K311s) and also to the elite customers(like HD700s), out of their vast history and their ability to invest - while you will not see Woo Audio or Audiostatic making non-competitive products to cater to such consumers because their capital is invested with the promise of big returns and the motive of breaking even....

 

What I mean to say is Brand have the power and money to cater to everyone while it is not the same with Boutique Woo Audio. But 10 years down the line, niether you nor I can guarantee that Woo Audio will have made enough profit to enter lower/budget consumer markets or become a 'Brand'

 

Yes, India is in fact very small a market for Audio Manufacturing but there are some really amazing Speaker manufacturers like Cadence Audio who have a good repute even in the states.

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Yes, India is in fact very small a market for Audio Manufacturing but there are some really amazing Speaker manufacturers like Cadence Audio who have a good repute even in the states.
I get the feeling that most of the Indians who are "into audio" are most likely to own full blown stereo or AV systems. I have a couple of friends in Chennai who have audio showrooms but who do not have a single headphone to showcase, let alone audition. It's all floor standers. This is not a complaint by any means.
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Originally Posted by ayaflo View Post
 

 

 

I disagree with you. The difference between boutique and a full blown brand is considerably big when it comes to such a specific domain like Audio.

Senns and AKGs have enough of a commercial aura to make products that cater to a not so bothersome consumer( like CX-180s and AKG K311s) and also to the elite customers(like HD700s), out of their vast history and their ability to invest - while you will not see Woo Audio or Audiostatic making non-competitive products to cater to such consumers because their capital is invested with the promise of big returns and the motive of breaking even....

 

What I mean to say is Brand have the power and money to cater to everyone while it is not the same with Boutique Woo Audio. But 10 years down the line, niether you nor I can guarantee that Woo Audio will have made enough profit to enter lower/budget consumer markets or become a 'Brand'

 

Yes, India is in fact very small a market for Audio Manufacturing but there are some really amazing Speaker manufacturers like Cadence Audio who have a good repute even in the states.

 

 

diy amps are easy to make. they are based on schematics and you simply have to solder as shown.

 

I would say its not even that hard to create schematic yourself if you adhere to certain principle, and then make it. Completely DIY amp. (as I am electrical engineer)

 

but when it comes to headphones, I would like to know how to make a good sounding headphone by yourself. it involves a completely different black magic to create a resolving, detailed, multilayer ed presentation with precise imaging.

 

I find it hard to believe that any (completely) home made headphone can compete with likes of senn hd650/ akg q701/ beyer dt880,

 

let alone hd800, T1 or k 812.

 

I am sorry if I am being harsh, but in this case, i need to hear it to believe it.

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I find it hard to believe that any (completely) home made headphone can compete with likes of senn hd650/ akg q701/ beyer dt880,

 

let alone hd800, T1 or k 812.

 

 

Did it occur to you that this is the exact reason I am asking you to listen to a home-made E-stat headphone?:deadhorse:

 

As I posted earlier, Please note that I have had non-continual 3 hours audition with a full-fledged Accuphase run Speaker system that probably had depth, space and transients I have heard above anything else. 

 

FYI - I have auditioned the AKG K501 and DT880(250 Ohm) in 2012 out of a Yamaha silent cinema A/V receiver. While  I cannot recall the impression I had of the K501 due to a non-enthusiastic salesman, the DT880 was large in stage and texture yet not resolving as much as the Shure SRH-940 thru Audinst HUD MX2 nor was it equally clean. And my Sony SA-5k beat them all when run using a HRT MS-II DAC via Maverick Audio A-100(?) in resolution and Bass extension. I own the DT990 Pro which are excellent headphones in most aspects with a sound as clean or better than the DT880 Pro. The DT880 Pro sounds like a tamed version of the DT990 TBH.

 

I have not heard the HD-800 nor the T1 or the K812... but the Orpheus Clones I auditioned are just another level especially the blackness between notes(ala decay), the clarity and transparency. 

My point is not that they are better than the best headphones but the question of right investments in this hobby...:blink: 

post #440 of 440
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Originally Posted by ayaflo View Post
 

 

 

Did it occur to you that this is the exact reason I am asking you to listen to a home-made E-stat headphone?:deadhorse:

 

As I posted earlier, Please note that I have had non-continual 3 hours audition with a full-fledged Accuphase run Speaker system that probably had depth, space and transients I have heard above anything else. 

 

FYI - I have auditioned the AKG K501 and DT880(250 Ohm) in 2012 out of a Yamaha silent cinema A/V receiver. While  I cannot recall the impression I had of the K501 due to a non-enthusiastic salesman, the DT880 was large in stage and texture yet not resolving as much as the Shure SRH-940 thru Audinst HUD MX2 nor was it equally clean. And my Sony SA-5k beat them all when run using a HRT MS-II DAC via Maverick Audio A-100(?) in resolution and Bass extension. I own the DT990 Pro which are excellent headphones in most aspects with a sound as clean or better than the DT880 Pro. The DT880 Pro sounds like a tamed version of the DT990 TBH.

 

I have not heard the HD-800 nor the T1 or the K812... but the Orpheus Clones I auditioned are just another level especially the blackness between notes(ala decay), the clarity and transparency. 

My point is not that they are better than the best headphones but the question of right investments in this hobby...:blink: 

 

well somebody far off could achieve that quality does not mean we all can start making headphones at home.

 

expert companies need to exist and imo if some can start in India, that'd be great.

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