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post #946 of 964

The Xonar Essence One?  That's probably quite the upgrade.

 

Open up the amp and take some good photos of how your Compass looks and post them here if you don't mind.  Hopefully the issue is a simple one.

 

The single supply powering the USB and SPDIF receivers is most likely not one of the possible things that's faulty right now.

Tell me what voltages you get at the following points circled in green:

 

 

post #947 of 964

The Xonar Essence One?  That's probably quite the upgrade.

 

Open up the amp and take some good photos of how your Compass looks and post them here if you don't mind.  Hopefully the issue is a simple one.

 

Also, tell me what voltages you get at the following points circled in green:

 

 

post #948 of 964

Thanks a ton for your help, I had about given up on this.  Sorry for taking so long to get a response out.

 

I'm getting 0V across those points in the first picture (the one with the 4 caps in a square pattern) and 1.73V across the points in the second picture.

 

Below as the pics for the three visible sections of the amp.

 

700

 

700

700

 

 


Edited by Chu - 8/25/13 at 12:57pm
post #949 of 964

Have you contacted Kingwa?

 

He is usually pretty good with walking you through troubleshooting if you are a little bit handy with electronics.

post #950 of 964
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Originally Posted by les_garten View Post

Have you contacted Kingwa?

 

He is usually pretty good with walking you through troubleshooting if you are a little bit handy with electronics.

I haven't yet, it honestly didn't occur to me.  All I did was check how much it would cost to ship back for repairs; and after picking my jaw off the floor decided that wasn't an option.

post #951 of 964
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Originally Posted by Chu View Post

Thanks a ton for your help, I had about given up on this.  Sorry for taking so long to get a response out.

 

I'm getting 0V across those points in the first picture (the one with the 4 caps in a square pattern) and 1.73V across the points in the second picture.

 

Below as the pics for the three visible sections of the amp.

 

700

 

700

700

 

 

 

No, it is not across, which i why I did not say across, you measure the voltage at EACH point individually, so your black/negative pin should only touch the nearby screw.  I'm sorry if I wasn't clear enough.  If I misunderstand you and you got those voltages at each point, then your power supply is seriously $%^&'d.  None of the components look bad, so I assume that there's a faulty transistor somewhere or something like that.

The voltages that you should get are approximately +15V, -15V, +3.3V and +5V from left to right, top to bottom from pic1 to pic2.

 

Kingwa is willing to help over email without you shipping the unit back to him.

post #952 of 964
Sorry to revive this thread, but there's a used Compass on Ebay, and I was wondering how the first generation Compass might compare to Audio-GD's current entry-level DAC/amp, the NFB-15. Not looking for descriptions of the sound quality type comparisons. Just wondering if the original Compass would be somewhat comparable to the NFB-15 in overall SQ.

Thanks!
Edited by cel4145 - 8/1/14 at 9:57pm
post #953 of 964

Bumping this because there's one for sale here on Head-Fi, and I'm wondering the same thing.

post #954 of 964
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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post

Sorry to revive this thread, but there's a used Compass on Ebay, and I was wondering how the first generation Compass might compare to Audio-GD's current entry-level DAC/amp, the NFB-15. Not looking for descriptions of the sound quality type comparisons. Just wondering if the original Compass would be somewhat comparable to the NFB-15 in overall SQ.

Thanks!

 

 

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Originally Posted by auvgeek View Post
 

Bumping this because there's one for sale here on Head-Fi, and I'm wondering the same thing.

 

 

Kingwa has made any bad gear.  The Compass is a nice piece and I thoroughly enjoyed mine when I had it.   How much are they selling for?

post #955 of 964

$200 shipped (hope I didn't shoot myself in the foot by mentioning that). Like cel4145 said, I'm just not sure how it compares to Audio-gd's newer models like the NFB-15/11.

 

Prolly belongs in my thread in the intro forum, but I'm curious how the OG Compass for that price stacks up against the 02+ODAC ($215) or Yulong D100 II ($315).


Edited by auvgeek - 8/10/14 at 6:14pm
post #956 of 964
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Originally Posted by auvgeek View Post
 

$200 shipped (hope I didn't shoot myself in the foot by mentioning that). Like cel4145 said, I'm just not sure how it compares to Audio-gd's newer models like the NFB-15/11.

 

Prolly belongs in my thread in the intro forum, but I'm curious how the OG Compass for that price stacks up against the 02+ODAC ($215) or Yulong D100 II ($315).

 

I doubt that those other units will sound any better.  I highly doubt that NFB-15 or 11 surpass the ol' '09 Compass, even Kingwa doesn't seem to think so.  The Compass 2 is what compares to the old Compass, or so he seemed to imply when I asked him some somewhat unrelated questions.  You could try asking him yourself, he's a nice gent'.

post #957 of 964
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Originally Posted by Mad Max View Post
 

 

No, it is not across, which i why I did not say across, you measure the voltage at EACH point individually, so your black/negative pin should only touch the nearby screw.  I'm sorry if I wasn't clear enough.  If I misunderstand you and you got those voltages at each point, then your power supply is seriously $%^&'d.  None of the components look bad, so I assume that there's a faulty transistor somewhere or something like that.

The voltages that you should get are approximately +15V, -15V, +3.3V and +5V from left to right, top to bottom from pic1 to pic2.

 

Kingwa is willing to help over email without you shipping the unit back to him.

 

I know it has been a few years but any updates on this. I just had mine die in the exact same way.

post #958 of 964
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Originally Posted by zeroibis View Post
 

 

I know it has been a few years but any updates on this. I just had mine die in the exact same way.


Sorry, but I never got around to it.  I had new toys to play with, and my Compass has been sitting on a rack since.  I'm in need of another DAC/AMP now, so I'm going to actually get in touch with Kingwa and see what happens.  I did take the measurements that Mad Max asked for -- and all the voltages do come out correct so it's probably not the power supply.  I was also a little surprised to find out there is no fuse . . . or at least no fuse where I would expect one.

 

Just wish I could find a way to ship it back for less than $60, if it comes to that.

 

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Originally Posted by Mad Max View Post
 

 

I doubt that those other units will sound any better.  I highly doubt that NFB-15 or 11 surpass the ol' '09 Compass, even Kingwa doesn't seem to think so.  The Compass 2 is what compares to the old Compass, or so he seemed to imply when I asked him some somewhat unrelated questions.  You could try asking him yourself, he's a nice gent'.

 

Is this really true?  I was tempted to take the easy way out and just buy a NFB-11, but if there really is not much difference it really is motivation to stop being lazy.  Plus I'm hoping that there is an Amanero upgrade option soon.


Edited by Chu - 9/1/15 at 7:02pm
post #959 of 964
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Originally Posted by Chu View Post
 


Sorry, but I never got around to it.  I had new toys to play with, and my Compass has been sitting on a rack since.  I'm in need of another DAC/AMP now, so I'm going to actually get in touch with Kingwa and see what happens.  I did take the measurements that Mad Max asked for -- and all the voltages do come out correct so it's probably not the power supply.  I was also a little surprised to find out there is no fuse . . . or at least no fuse where I would expect one.

 

Just wish I could find a way to ship it back for less than $60, if it comes to that.

 

 

Is this really true?  I was tempted to take the easy way out and just buy a NFB-11, but if there really is not much difference it really is motivation to stop being lazy.  Plus I'm hoping that there is an Amanero upgrade option soon.

 

 

Have you contacted Kingwa?

 

$60 for a fixed Compass seems like a deal,  but I would contact him and see if he can help out with it.

post #960 of 964
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Originally Posted by les_garten View Post
 

 

 

Have you contacted Kingwa?

 

$60 for a fixed Compass seems like a deal,  but I would contact him and see if he can help out with it.

 

I'm assuming $60 to ship it (confirmed on USPS.gov), plus $30 to get it back (based on rates for similar amps on their site), but yes that's still a "deal".  Pretty huge hassle though!

 

I just sent an e-mail.  Will see what happens.

 

Oh, something I found interesting.  Two years ago I wrote:

 

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Originally Posted by Chu View Post
 

I haven't yet, it honestly didn't occur to me.  All I did was check how much it would cost to ship back for repairs; and after picking my jaw off the floor decided that wasn't an option.

 

The shipping costs two years ago were around $160.  I don't know why it is so much cheaper now, but if it was still $160 + $30 I am still not really sure if it would be worth the trouble of sending it back versus just listing it for parts in the FS/FT forum.


Edited by Chu - 9/1/15 at 7:35pm
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