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WA22... I missed mine. You should try metal base GZ34 and GEC 6AS7G, it is the best combo I ever tried.
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How much difference is there with changing driver tubes in the wa22? I have tung sol mouse ears in there right now. Thinking about the vt231.
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^ I've been keeping an eye for gz34 metal base on ebay but the price is quite stiff.  I wanna clearly internalize each tube combo first.  :)

For HD800, I think I really like TS5998 + ken rad right now.  I switch in 7236 for the HE500.

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I like the GEC with HD800, Diana Krall's voice to die for.
post #29330 of 39044
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Originally Posted by talmlikeabalm View Post

How much difference is there with changing driver tubes in the wa22? I have tung sol mouse ears in there right now. Thinking about the vt231.

I never tried the mouse ears.
post #29331 of 39044
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Originally Posted by talmlikeabalm View Post

How much difference is there with changing driver tubes in the wa22? I have tung sol mouse ears in there right now. Thinking about the vt231.

For me and to my ears, the difference is huge between ken rad vt231 and RCA grey glass/6SN7 GTA/B(GE, Raytheon, RCA...).   I can for sure tell them apart from the ken rad vt231 even in blind tests. However, if they are same models, same grade driver tubes, I am not 100% how much of a difference I'll hear.  Try it out with some cheaper VT231.   Too much fun.  :p

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Go with the holy grail TS6SN7 BGRP and be done with it.
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Go with the holy grail TS6SN7 BGRP and be done with it.

 

lol, that will hurt my toy budget dearly.  :D

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GEC 6AS7G

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Originally Posted by GrindingThud View Post

Good is a relative term...as is upgrade. Other than how quiet the tubes are (ideally they should be silent), you won't hear significant differences across the 6080 tubes, with maybe exception of the bendix graphite plate types which many (including me) say have a better sound stage. What's good about the 7236 (and 5998) is it lowers output impedance of the amp and gets a little more thud into lower impedance phones. I think you have high impedance headphones (HD800?)...so I'll have to defer to someone with those to say if they prefer 7236, 5998, or 6080 for them.
I much prefer the 5998's over the 7236's with my HD800's. Not only are they more powerful but I find the bass to be fuller and better defined.
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Originally Posted by Frank I View Post
 

Dave I find it interesting that some tubes are completely quiet while other  hum I was going to suggest trying a cheater plug in the outlet to see if that eliminates the humming issue and you may want to try that anyway. I am not familiar with using the 422A  now would I know anyone even to recommend to get them from. I just changed the rectifier in the Wa 22 to the Princess 274B and using the sylvania 67n7GT tubes plus the upgraded tungol 7236 and it dead quiet and was with the stock tubes as well.

 

Weird one of your issue are with certain types of tubes other than rectifiers and also with rectifiers yet others are dead silent. I would try to see if you can use a cheater plug or power conditioner to see if that will help you eliminate the issue. Hum is usually the result of the tube and sometimes a low level hum can come from transformers as well but since you are getting quite response with certain tubes its telling me the tube are part of the issue or sometime using a cheater plug will help eliminate the hum.

 

Let me know if you try the cheater plug and see if that helps first.


I already use a pretty decent power conditioner but tried a cheater plug anyway with no change in the amount of hum. I guess I'll start looking for a replacement. I don't actually know why I'm being so anal about it. With the power switch set to the low position the hum is barely noticeable and doesn't affect the music at all. It's just that all my other rectifiers are dead quiet and I'd like a WE422a that is the same. Going forward, would it be reasonable to ask a seller to take back a tube if it hums? That is, does hum indicate a defective tube? Also, is there a list of tubes someplace of the NOS tubes Woo Audio has to sell? The pair of Sylvania 7236's that I bought from Jack were listed on the web site but I only knew about the USAF 596 that I bought from him because it was mentioned on this forum. Thanks.

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Since the amp is only doing it with different types of tubes one would assume it is the tubes.  Most tube sellers will replace if they are reputable but it could also be handy have a tube tester on hand. Many are on ebay and I picked up a Knight for 115.00 and it works well for basic test but check tube bases also make sure they are not loose and you ask. 

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Originally Posted by jc9394 View Post

WA22... I missed mine. You should try metal base GZ34 and GEC 6AS7G, it is the best combo I ever tried.

 

 

any difference between the matal base and the brown base?  it's much cheaper now for the brown base.

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any difference between the matal base and the brown base?  it's much cheaper now for the brown base.

 

 

yes, the last 5-10%

 

The metal base is more dynamic and smoother than brown base one but you have to compare side by side to notice the difference.


Edited by jc9394 - 1/17/14 at 11:45am
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Originally Posted by jc9394 View Post
 

 

 

yes, the last 5-10%

 

The metal base is more dynamic and smoother than brown base one but you have to compare side by side to notice the difference.

 

i remember you liked it with the wa22.  still like them with wa5le? 

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