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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post
 

SAFARI? Mac?  I did have some problem with quoting yesterday.  It's all good today though.

Yes , Safari on my MBP.

While I'm quoting/replying, Safari quites on me unexpectedly, it even happened twice while I was replying back to you just now!

Was this the issue you had also? Thanks.

post #28982 of 39286
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Originally Posted by prosperone View Post
 

Woo Audio Wa5 + Hifiman HE-6 = Luscious Goodness

 

Well after months of contemplation I finally picked up a pair of HE-6.  I strongly considered the HD800, and thought about waiting for one of next year's offerings  (AKG K812, Senn's next flagship, a new Hifiman, the Oppo PM1...). 

 

Before getting on to the sound, just a few observations on the decision making process especially as it relates to Head-fi.  I spent countless hours literally reading every post of every thread relating to these and other contenders.  I went through the same with other sites.  Sifting through the good, the bad, the hype and the truth was no small task.  That said, I do think in large part, the truth can be ferreted out on this site. 

 

I think what makes deciding on A vs. B difficult though is distinguishing between how a headphone is on the whole, and what really amount to small (however valid) criticisms.  At the level of the HE-6 and other high level headphones I have found the sound to be exceptional (LCD, Senn, Hifiman, BD T1, Denon 7000...).  Are some better than others? Clearly and generally their price seems to reflect this.  Different flavors?  Absolutely!  Some much more suited to certain situations?  100%, I love the Denon ADH7000 for movies, the T1 for all around extremely comfortable listening, and  now the HE-6 for really hearing the music really come alive. 

 

That said some of the critiques of headphones at this level seem to focus on one small but measurable flaw.  I feel that perhaps this overly clouds the decision making process, when in its absence you would clearly lean in one direction or the other.  In other words sometimes I feel like a glorious headphone gets tainted by some small critique.  Once however its listened to, the shortcomings may exist, but largely drop out of view (unless you have ears which are sensitive to treble spikes, or your amp isn't well matched to the load).  I think the criticisms of headphones are very important.  However, I think its equally important to develop an ability to put them in proper context.  Something I keep reminding myself of.

 

In short I guess what I'm trying to convey to those who find themselves similarly gripped when trying to decide between headphone A&B is - buy the one you are leaning towards and see if you like it.  If you've done your research on here, you probably have a pretty good answer in hand.  At the end of the day though nothing beats sitting down and listening. 

 

With that, thanks to all who make this site so rich with information. 

 

Now onto my impressions... Big picture, I love this headphone!!!

 

1) Can the Woo Audio WA5 drive the HE-6?  In my opinion absolutely 100% yes.  I'm running them out of the K1000 jack.  I'm barely turning the dial.  I'm hearing details in the music that have otherwise escaped me on recordings I've listened to for years.  I don't think there should be any doubt in any one's mind that this is the case. Could it be better?  My pocket book hopes not.  Lets put it this way, I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything.   I can't speak for the WA5LE which does not have the K1000 jack.

2)  How is the sound?  Its early in the listening process now.  Top to bottom it feels smooth, detailed, neutral to slightly warm.  I can hear every little detail.  The headphone is quite fast, every note starts and stops within its designated space within the recording.  The layering is fantastic, I can hear cymbals, guitar strings and voices all in the same beat very distinctly.  Each instrument is easy to follow individually and as a group.  On jazz recordings its as if you are at the front table, the trumpet is in your ear ( in a good way) (Sonny Side Up).  On Dire Straits Love over Gold the same all held true.  You could hear the gravel in Mark's voice, fingers sliding down guitar strings between notes, cymbals sounded right, drums good...  The tonality of instruments is very good, saxaphones take on the right shape (Dodo Green, My Hour of Need).  Voices are round and open.  Base strings, voice and piano play well together - clear distinctive notes, right tone, speed, dynamics, very very clean (Armstrong & Ellington - The Great Summit).  Very very enjoyable sound.

3) Comfort.  At first felt a little tight, but head adjusted quickly.  I'm conscious its on my head though.  Whereas the T1 dissappears and the DH7000 pretty much float on your head.  The sound quality outweighs the comfort issues.  That said, I can see myself reaching for the T1s if I'm just in for a comfortable ride.  I'm not sure I could wear these for 8hrs a day.  With the T1s I could. 

4) Open Questions - How much difference would the HD800 sound stage make to me??? Trade offs...

5) Small nags - The stock cord if you are just running XLR is quite short.  Hifiman and others offer longer cords but at a steep price. An option of a longer XLR cord at initial purchase, or a slightly longer cord would be nice.  (You get a couple extra feet if you are running 1/4 inch). 

 

Thx all - peace and good listening...

 

Congrats prosperone, thoughtfully presented. Regarding No.5..... t-r-u-e. I went for a custom Wireworld cable @ 10ft. And pigtails @ 1M. When I need to tap the vintage receiver, I've got just over 13 ft - both 10ft & 13ft are perfect for my space!

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Originally Posted by Silent One View Post
 

 

Congrats prosperone, thoughtfully presented. Regarding No.5..... t-r-u-e. I went for a custom Wireworld cable @ 10ft. And pigtails @ 1M. When I need to tap the vintage receiver, I've got just over 13 ft - both 10ft & 13ft are perfect for my space!


Thanks Silent One.  I'll look into the Wireworld cables.  Those lengths sound just about right for me.  I definitely  appreciated your postings during this venture. I've not spent a lot of time on other community boards like this.  I have however come to realize what an amazing place Headfi is.  The platform, technology, UI, people and knowledge make it something special.  I hope that other hobbies are this blessed.

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Originally Posted by joseph69 View Post
 

Yes , Safari on my MBP.

While I'm quoting/replying, Safari quites on me unexpectedly, it even happened twice while I was replying back to you just now!

Was this the issue you had also? Thanks.

I tested on my ipad and quoting worked fine.  On my windows PC, sometimes quoting function did not work but didn't crash chrome.  It did crash the page/tab though so I had to close the page/tab and reopen the thread.

post #28985 of 39286
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Originally Posted by prosperone View Post
 
 


Thanks Silent One.  I'll look into the Wireworld cables.  Those lengths sound just about right for me.  I definitely  appreciated your postings during this venture. I've not spent a lot of time on other community boards like this.  I have however come to realize what an amazing place Headfi is.  The platform, technology, UI, people and knowledge make it something special.  I hope that other hobbies are this blessed.

There's certainly some fine cable options out there for the HE-6. I meant to highlight the length of my cabling, and simply :rolleyes:threw in the make. Will be excited to hear what you chose when the time comes...

post #28986 of 39286

I've been on the phone with Apple about this 3 times today, they say that the Mac is fine, so I'll see what happens, thanks for the info!

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Originally Posted by joseph69 View Post
 

Yes , Safari on my MBP.

While I'm quoting/replying, Safari quites on me unexpectedly, it even happened twice while I was replying back to you just now!

Was this the issue you had also? Thanks.

I been having that problem on the iMac since they changed the oS system

post #28988 of 39286
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Originally Posted by prosperone View Post

Woo Audio Wa5 + Hifiman HE-6 = Luscious Goodness

Well after months of contemplation I finally picked up a pair of HE-6.  I strongly considered the HD800, and thought about waiting for one of next year's offerings  (AKG K812, Senn's next flagship, a new Hifiman, the Oppo PM1...). 

Before getting on to the sound, just a few observations on the decision making process especially as it relates to Head-fi.  I spent countless hours literally reading every post of every thread relating to these and other contenders.  I went through the same with other sites.  Sifting through the good, the bad, the hype and the truth was no small task.  That said, I do think in large part, the truth can be ferreted out on this site. 

I think what makes deciding on A vs. B difficult though is distinguishing between how a headphone is on the whole, and what really amount to small (however valid) criticisms.  At the level of the HE-6 and other high level headphones I have found the sound to be exceptional (LCD, Senn, Hifiman, BD T1, Denon 7000...).  Are some better than others? Clearly and generally their price seems to reflect this.  Different flavors?  Absolutely!  Some much more suited to certain situations?  100%, I love the Denon ADH7000 for movies, the T1 for all around extremely comfortable listening, and  now the HE-6 for really hearing the music really come alive. 

That said some of the critiques of headphones at this level seem to focus on one small but measurable flaw.  I feel that perhaps this overly clouds the decision making process, when in its absence you would clearly lean in one direction or the other.  In other words sometimes I feel like a glorious headphone gets tainted by some small critique.  Once however its listened to, the shortcomings may exist, but largely drop out of view (unless you have ears which are sensitive to treble spikes, or your amp isn't well matched to the load).  I think the criticisms of headphones are very important.  However, I think its equally important to develop an ability to put them in proper context.  Something I keep reminding myself of.

In short I guess what I'm trying to convey to those who find themselves similarly gripped when trying to decide between headphone A&B is - buy the one you are leaning towards and see if you like it.  If you've done your research on here, you probably have a pretty good answer in hand.  At the end of the day though nothing beats sitting down and listening. 

With that, thanks to all who make this site so rich with information. 

Now onto my impressions... Big picture, I love this headphone!!!

1) Can the Woo Audio WA5 drive the HE-6?  In my opinion absolutely 100% yes.  I'm running them out of the K1000 jack.  I'm barely turning the dial.  I'm hearing details in the music that have otherwise escaped me on recordings I've listened to for years.  I don't think there should be any doubt in any one's mind that this is the case. Could it be better?  My pocket book hopes not.  Lets put it this way, I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything.   I can't speak for the WA5LE which does not have the K1000 jack.
2)  How is the sound?  Its early in the listening process now.  Top to bottom it feels smooth, detailed, neutral to slightly warm.  I can hear every little detail.  The headphone is quite fast, every note starts and stops within its designated space within the recording.  The layering is fantastic, I can hear cymbals, guitar strings and voices all in the same beat very distinctly.  Each instrument is easy to follow individually and as a group.  On jazz recordings its as if you are at the front table, the trumpet is in your ear ( in a good way) (Sonny Side Up).  On Dire Straits Love over Gold the same all held true.  You could hear the gravel in Mark's voice, fingers sliding down guitar strings between notes, cymbals sounded right, drums good...  The tonality of instruments is very good, saxaphones take on the right shape (Dodo Green, My Hour of Need).  Voices are round and open.  Base strings, voice and piano play well together - clear distinctive notes, right tone, speed, dynamics, very very clean (Armstrong & Ellington - The Great Summit).  Very very enjoyable sound.
3) Comfort.  At first felt a little tight, but head adjusted quickly.  I'm conscious its on my head though.  Whereas the T1 dissappears and the DH7000 pretty much float on your head.  The sound quality outweighs the comfort issues.  That said, I can see myself reaching for the T1s if I'm just in for a comfortable ride.  I'm not sure I could wear these for 8hrs a day.  With the T1s I could. 
4) Open Questions - How much difference would the HD800 sound stage make to me??? Trade offs...
5) Small nags - The stock cord if you are just running XLR is quite short.  Hifiman and others offer longer cords but at a steep price. An option of a longer XLR cord at initial purchase, or a slightly longer cord would be nice.  (You get a couple extra feet if you are running 1/4 inch). 

Thx all - peace and good listening...

I found this pairing to be incredible smily_headphones1.gif
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Just reset safari
post #28990 of 39286
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Originally Posted by kazsud View Post

Just reset safari

I've rest t it 3 times, this is the only time this happens, otherwise the Mac is fine, I'll reset again, thanks. 

post #28991 of 39286
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post

HE-500 biggrin.gif  or the AD or HD800 ...Abundant choices.  Your amp will come fast.
HE-500 or Hd-700, or gs1000i, which is better?
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All three are great cans so it really comes down to personal preference on sound sigs. I personally prefer the HE-500s but that's just me. I have not heard the GS1000s in a long time though. 

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Originally Posted by Joshhh View Post
 

All three are great cans so it really comes down to personal preference on sound sigs. I personally prefer the HE-500s but that's just me. I have not heard the GS1000s in a long time though. 


Thanks,

I prefer the warm sound. Base on your experiences, which one will satisfy my need.

post #28994 of 39286
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Originally Posted by Dangcaonguyen View Post


HE-500 or Hd-700, or gs1000i, which is better?

 

haven't heard the HD 700, but for sure the HE-500 put the GS1000 to shame, IMO.

post #28995 of 39286
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Originally Posted by Joshhh View Post
 

All three are great cans so it really comes down to personal preference on sound sigs. I personally prefer the HE-500s but that's just me. I have not heard the GS1000s in a long time though. 


What he said +1

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