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at the WA5's price, i'd consider a DNA 2A3 as well.

 

hmmm i give up, im just going in circles, i'll just wait till i can listen to a WA22.


Edited by Dubstep Girl - 4/17/13 at 7:33pm
post #24992 of 31090
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Originally Posted by Sko0byDoo View Post

 

DubstepG, I'd say save up and get the WA5LE.  It's the one you'd get and be set for life!

 

Umm, DAC-1 handles up to 96kHz, DAC-2 goes all the way up to 192kHz (comparison: http://www.wyred4sound.com/webapps/i/74030/212814/333112)

 

I just upgraded from a Bifrost to Mytek 192; felt somewhat disappointing.  I didn't hear anything difference.  May be it's Mytek's fault :)   

 

Allow me to step outside the tea room - the listening room is completely dismantled frown.gif - and share my view on the DAC-1/DAC-2. My DAC-1, while lacking the Preamp/HT options, is still sup'd up to DAC-2 specs (Digital board; Low ESR "Super Caps"). 

 

Also, I'm using a USBridge- Digital Coax into the shoe box for 24/192 kHz. I did a few Redbook shootouts with USB input versus Coax and I easily preferred the latter. For those of you looking at Pre-Owned DACs, I've not yet decided on getting the latest W4S upgrades or showing my early DAC-1 the door at an extremely attractive price. Will know more 1st of June...

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Originally Posted by Silent One View Post

 

Allow me to step outside the tea room - the listening room is completely dismantled frown.gif - and share my view on the DAC-1/DAC-2. My DAC-1, while lacking the Preamp/HT options, is still sup'd up to DAC-2 specs (Digital board; Low ESR "Super Caps"). 

 

Also, I'm using a USBridge- Digital Coax into the shoe box for 24/192 kHz. I did a few Redbook shootouts with USB input versus Coax and I easily preferred the latter. For those of you looking at Pre-Owned DACs, I've not yet decided on getting the latest W4S upgrades or showing my early DAC-1 the door at an extremely attractive price. Will know more 1st of June...

 

Silent One, how many avatars do you have??

post #24994 of 31090

hmm, if the W4S-1 is really the same as W4S-2 except for 24/96 vs 24/192 and a few less extra features, it seems attractive at the 995$ price point and i could probably upgrade. 

 

i would be fine with my Musical Fidelity V Link as well since its 24/96, i wouldn't care too much about the 24/192 capability.


Edited by Dubstep Girl - 4/17/13 at 8:27pm
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DSG, the DAC-1 represents a really good value, especially if one doesn't need the icing on the cake. A perfectly good Pound cake can serve one well.

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I have heard master recordings done on 24/192 from Linn Records and felt that you are not missing anything by using 24/96. 24/192 takes twice as much space on the hard drive as 24/96. For example the Bach; St. John Passion by the Dunedin Consort took about 8.81gigs of hard disk space just for audio no video and there is even more from Linn Records related to this performance.  You can in some cases degraded the sound quality using 24/192 since some analog sections of amps, pre-amps or op-amps can distort or become unstable trying to handle the very high frequencies that you normally cannot hear and you could hear some distortion byproducts in the audible range. It is pointless to record older analog recording into 24/192 since the tapes and masters at the time simply did not have the bandwidth to record much information at the very high frequencies that would be buried in the noise. You would have to all digital equipment from the start to gain benefit using higher sampling rate.  I have learn from many years of experience the closer the copy you have to the recording master the better the general sound quality is, not the sample rate being used.  I have heard the playback of a digital recording master just after 5 minutes after a summer concert a few years back and the quality just blew me away and no way can a CD sound like that. You want the recording engineer to do the best possible job in the take so that you do not have to use heavy post processing or remixing is what really helps in sound quality. I still think that the WA5 or the WA5LE would be the one to get for Woo and you would be all set. It may also be cost effective to get outstanding performances with great recording quality in mind as well.

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Originally Posted by john57 View Post
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agreed, i have not heard a difference between 24/96 and 24/192 besides file size.

 

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Originally Posted by Silent One View Post

DSG, the DAC-1 represents a really good value, especially if one doesn't need the icing on the cake. A perfectly good Pound cake can serve one well.

 

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Edited by Dubstep Girl - 4/17/13 at 9:02pm
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post

at the WA5's price, i'd consider a DNA 2A3 as well.

 

hmmm i give up, im just going in circles, i'll just wait till i can listen to a WA22.

 

When do you think that's going to happen.  Next audio show you go to?

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Originally Posted by flaming_june View Post

 

When do you think that's going to happen.  Next audio show you go to?

 

yeah the chicago one is june or something.

 

i don't think theres anyone locally with a WA22. none of the audio stores near here carry much as far as headphone amps go either.

post #25000 of 31090

June will be here in no time! But I think you missed WooAudio a couple of months back in Chicago, I think.

post #25001 of 31090
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Hey, Glenn, I'd have to think long and hard before dumping a 596 into an amp that is blowing rectifiers no matter how much inrush it can handle especially since the guy has already lost four others that were "expensive".  Two cents.

 

I've got no more tubes left at the moment so I'll wait for Jack to reply and see if he's ready to offer warranty on a tested tube. He is absolutely sure it is not the amp, even though all four tubes blew. 

post #25002 of 31090
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post

at the WA5's price, i'd consider a DNA 2A3 as well.

 

hmmm i give up, im just going in circles, i'll just wait till i can listen to a WA22.

 

Many say a balanced WA22 sounds better than my WA5LE on the HD800.  The push pull balanced approach has better synergy.  I'm still hanging on to my WA5LE, though!  

post #25003 of 31090
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Originally Posted by reeltime View Post

 

Many say a balanced WA22 sounds better than my WA5LE on the HD800.  The push pull balanced approach has better synergy.  I'm still hanging on to my WA5LE, though!  

Gee like this?

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/450115/wooaudio-wa22-vs-wa5le

 

It all depends if you like the 300B sound and it really comes down what your ears like.  I did find that finding a good balanced DAC was a bit of  a pain in the neck. I went thru four different balanced DAC's before I found the one I like and it is not the most expensive one I tried. Part of the problem was too many parts in the DAC that needs to be carefully matched in four sections to sound good in balanced mode. I really enjoy the Beyers T70 on the WA5LE but I am not too crazy about the HD800.

post #25004 of 31090
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post
 i wouldn't even be able to get a W4S DAC right now, much less a PWD, if anything it would be a nuwave, and i'm not sure its enough of an upgrade to justify the cost. 

 

Not trying to spend you money for you, but I have seen a few W4S DAC-2's on Audiogon for around $100-$1200  recently....

post #25005 of 31090

I got my W4S DAC-2 on eBay in December for $1200

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