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Originally Posted by fkrieger View Post

FWIW I keep my new JH13's in my ear most of the day. I bought the cable with the mic about 3 days after getting them (and the original cable) in order to use them for conf. calls, etc. I am on the phone much of the day and travel for work a bunch... so I think that cable will be my primary pretty much. That said, I still have the original cable and keep it in the metal case that the JH13's came in.

Net: The fit of the ear phone is really good. It's comfortable. The earphones are not too heavy. I take them out when not on calls (or leave one ear in) to provide my ears a rest, but for the most part I just leave them in b/c they block out a lot of sounds that can distract me when working at my desk at home.

Source: Sort of like you I'm starting to do my due diligence on the source. The immediate slap in the face on how clear music can be has now got me thinking- what could it be if I listened with a better source? I currently use an iPhone 4S which plays .flac files via a free player I downloaded out of iTunes. These flacs are cut down by the internal DAC... so aren't the 24-bit that they could be... The decision now: Buy an external DAC+AMP (i.e. something like the Sony PHA-2, hifi-M8, etc.) or get a dedicated DAP (AK120, etc.).

Cable: Although a complete noob (take whatever I say with a grain of salt) I *think I can* hear a difference between the cable that does not have the mic (that which came with the IEMs originally) and that which I bought a few days later from JHA. I am probably the last person who should be writing an A/B compare, but the cable without the mic sounds a little more "full" or brings a little more sound stage to the music. The cable with the mic sounds a little more thin.
- The compare I am using is a flac of Radiohead "Everything in Its Right Place" ... samples of Thom Yorke's voice -> when the bass imitates-> where the drums start -> voice
Although both present the music clearly, the original cables seem more fun. Less surgical perhaps?
Hey dude I'm using an iTunes app to download songs too . I want to get a new phone ( note 3 ). Is there a way to transfer the songs to my new phone or do I have to re-download all my songs again?
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So just shipped my JH3A and JH16 back. I'll report in a couple weeks when I receive my JH13 to see if I can make some useful comparisons between the JH16 and JH13 FP, TG 334, UM 3DD, and maybe the 1Plus2 though that will be from memory and notes.

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first thing i am buying , when i win a lottery.

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So I'll be receiving mine in a bit more than a week. My audiologist has them right now as I wasn't sure what address I would be at this time when I ordered. She's going to be at a NYC meet in a few weeks and I'm going to pick it up then. I'm pretty excited. I absolutely love the JH5 and the JH13 should be around my preferred signature so hopefully I like them as much as I've read about them.

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Originally Posted by rawrster View Post
 

So I'll be receiving mine in a bit more than a week. My audiologist has them right now as I wasn't sure what address I would be at this time when I ordered. She's going to be at a NYC meet in a few weeks and I'm going to pick it up then. I'm pretty excited. I absolutely love the JH5 and the JH13 should be around my preferred signature so hopefully I like them as much as I've read about them.

 

So stoked! FlySweep has both and I've enjoyed his impressions. I canno wait to hear your's. Always appreciated your reflections and advice in the past!

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Originally Posted by rawrster View Post
 

So I'll be receiving mine in a bit more than a week. My audiologist has them right now as I wasn't sure what address I would be at this time when I ordered. She's going to be at a NYC meet in a few weeks and I'm going to pick it up then. I'm pretty excited. I absolutely love the JH5 and the JH13 should be around my preferred signature so hopefully I like them as much as I've read about them.

This may sound silly but why don't you ask her to run them in for a while. Can't hurt.

post #9712 of 10326
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Originally Posted by imackler View Post
 

 

So stoked! FlySweep has both and I've enjoyed his impressions. I canno wait to hear your's. Always appreciated your reflections and advice in the past!

I'm excited too. I don't see me getting any further than this. I've bought enough customs for a lifetime lol

 

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Originally Posted by goodvibes View Post
 

This may sound silly but why don't you ask her to run them in for a while. Can't hurt.

I don't really believe in burn in making any difference from experience with many products. 

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Originally Posted by rawrster View Post
 

I'm excited too. I don't see me getting any further than this. I've bought enough customs for a lifetime lol

 

I don't really believe in burn in making any difference from experience with many products. 


Seconded.

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Why I said it couldn't hurt, to allow room for opinion. Hope you like them. 

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Originally Posted by fkrieger View Post
 

FWIW I keep my new JH13's in my ear most of the day. I bought the cable with the mic about 3 days after getting them (and the original cable) in order to use them for conf. calls, etc. I am on the phone much of the day and travel for work a bunch... so I think that cable will be my primary pretty much. That said, I still have the original cable and keep it in the metal case that the JH13's came in.

 

Net: The fit of the ear phone is really good. It's comfortable. The earphones are not too heavy. I take them out when not on calls (or leave one ear in) to provide my ears a rest, but for the most part I just leave them in b/c they block out a lot of sounds that can distract me when working at my desk at home.

 

Source: Sort of like you I'm starting to do my due diligence on the source. The immediate slap in the face on how clear music can be has now got me thinking- what could it be if I listened with a better source? I currently use an iPhone 4S which plays .flac files via a free player I downloaded out of iTunes. These flacs are cut down by the internal DAC... so aren't the 24-bit that they could be... The decision now: Buy an external DAC+AMP (i.e. something like the Sony PHA-2, hifi-M8, etc.) or get a dedicated DAP (AK120, etc.).

 

Cable: Although a complete noob (take whatever I say with a grain of salt) I *think I can* hear a difference between the cable that does not have the mic (that which came with the IEMs originally) and that which I bought a few days later from JHA. I am probably the last person who should be writing an A/B compare, but the cable without the mic sounds a little more "full" or brings a little more sound stage to the music. The cable with the mic sounds a little more thin.

- The compare I am using is a flac of Radiohead "Everything in Its Right Place" ... samples of Thom Yorke's voice -> when the bass imitates-> where the drums start -> voice

Although both present the music clearly, the original cables seem more fun. Less surgical perhaps?

 

Thanks so much for this comprehensive reply. I truly appreciate it. It was particularly interesting to hear how you used them to block out noise - it might be just what I need as I am currently studying at the moment.  

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I started playing with eq today, to get a little better/more neutralish response from my JH13. I thought I'd share it for feedback or to solicit other's eq's that might do a better job of bringing it closer to neutral but maintaining a little sub bass bump.

100hz, Q=.4, -3db
3k, Q=1, +2db
9.5k, Q=2, -3db

Edit on an incorrect Q factor.
Edited by shotgunshane - 11/16/13 at 8:11am
post #9717 of 10326

how much better is JH13 compared to hifiman re-272 ?

 

i know they don't compare since one is 1000$ pricier , but still any insightful points would be welcome/appreciated

thanx :D

post #9718 of 10326
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Originally Posted by proedros View Post
 

how much better is JH13 compared to hifiman re-272 ?

 

i know they don't compare since one is 1000$ pricier , but still any insightful points would be welcome/appreciated

thanx :D

 

How much better one thing is compared to another depends almost entirely on your subjective preferences. :o 

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Posted this on a local headphone forum:

 

Here's a little review I decided to write up about my current CIEM of choice, the Jerry Harvey Audio JH13Pro. Though most reviews are based on comparisons with other models, I will try to base my review on what I can hear with a choice of music, along with the different gear used. I also refuse to quantify my findings by measly scores. As this is also a review of a custom, I will also explain the process of how I got the CIEMs in the first place.

Please note all listening is done subjectively and IT IS ULTIMATELY UP TO YOU if you plan on actually acquiring a piece of hardcore gear, and if it fits your style of listening.

A little about me:
Ever since starting high school, I've loved music. I began with typical pop, to typical pop-rock, eventually exploring metal. Going through college I eventually started going through more musical styles, from Progressive Rock and Metal to Death Metal, and started venturing into other genres. Also I began my headphone journey, unfortunately with a pair of Beats headphones and even earphones. Eventually sometime in the late 2000s I got a pair of Sennheiser IE8s and they became my constant companions up until 2012, when I began my hifi journey with the AKG K3003.

Today I collect headphones and earphones, eventually going for CIEMs in late 2012 with the FitEar MH335DW. My musical tastes have expanded to Jazz, Classical, Electronic, Hip-Hop, and more.


Gear used:

MacBook Pro 15" Retina (mid 2012)
Audirvana Pro
Wireworld Platinum Starlight 0.3 USB cable
Fostex HP-A3 DAC

Hifiman HM-901 (balanced card)

iriver + Red Wine Audio RWAK120

Tralucent Silver/Gold cables


Intro:
Go to any CIEM review or news site/forum/whatever and somewhere in there you will read about Jerry Harvey Audio. For those who don't know him, his name has been synonymous with high-end CIEMs for some time, wowing the industry with his work with Ultimate Ears and since then, Jerry Harvey Audio itself. JH Audio specializes in "Custom In-Ear Monitors for Rockstars" as their polo shirts read, and taking a quick look at their client list (http://www.jhaudio.com/about/client-list) its hard not to notice the names.

I never personally thought about customs for some time, thinking it would be difficult to actually get a good pair, considering how much shipping and customs would be, living in the beautiful country that I live in, but after a very good experience with my first CIEMs, I decided to try another CIEM brand, this time in another country. I began to email Ultimate Ears about their UE PRM (whose customization of sound interested me a lot), but after some convincing from a good friend (and fellow audiophile) I went over and emailed Jerry Harvey Audio about getting a JH13Pro. What interested me about this pair was the great feedback it had been getting, especially when it comes to its clarity and balance, especially thanks to the FreqPhase option introduced by Jerry Harvey for the JH16Pro (its big, bassier brother), the JH3A, and the JH13Pro. It was a breeze to work with Corbyn Grieco of JH Audio and after sending my impressions in, even after a few hiccups in the process, we were able to work it out. I was able to visit their offices in Orlando and pick up my JH13s from them directly.

But enough with the introduction, let's get down to business:

ALBUM 1
Random Access Memories
Daft Punk (2013)
Disco, Pop, Jazz
24/88.2

Easily one of the best albums of all time, Daft Punk's Random Access Memories shines brightly with the JH13Pro. The bass hits hard but the mids and highs shine, from the first to the last track. Listening to "Give Life Back To Music", the instruments are clearly rendered, when the bass drums hit, they punch and give that little oomph that just makes your heart beat just a little bit to feel that bass. When the hi-hats go, they have that little sparkle at the end that makes the cymbals shine. Vocals are rendered beautifully, especially on "Giorgio By Moroder", even just listening to the interview with disco legend Giorgio Moroder, you can get enthralled by the beautiful mids of the JH13Pro. Resolution is so crystal-clear you can even hear the plucking of the bass guitar, especially on a track like "Fragments of Time", even the left-to-right and vice-versa movement of the synthesizer. All in all, this album shows the versatility of these amazing CIEMs.

ALBUM 2
The Onslaught
Lazarus A.D. (2009)
Death Metal
16/44

One of the greatest challenges (at least one thing that I feel is a challenge) for earphones and headphones (and even some speakers!) is speed, in terms of if the earphones can catch up to instrument speed, and one of the finest tests is the insanely fast drumming of Lazarus A.D.'s drummer. I find that many earphones have difficulty rendering the speedy drumming of this album, which is why I use this record to test how "fast" the earphone can be. Amazingly enough, the drums (especially on the first track, "Last Breath") are well-rendered and the JH13 can actually catch up to the drums and guitars and even separate them well that they all sound like individual instruments, and even exist in a wide soundstage. When the drums start rolling, you can even feel like they are working in tandem, but are controlled by separate hands, thus giving a sense of intense realism in the psychoacoustic space the JH13Pros give.


ALBUM 3
Jazz At The Pawnshop
Arne Domnerus, Lars Erstrand, Bengt Hallberg, Egil Johansen, Georg Riedel (1977)
Jazz
24/88.2

Still one of the most amazing live recorded albums of all time, Jazz At The Pawnshop is well rendered on the JH13s. Even the applause by the audience and their conversations in the background are well-rendered and give this surreal realism, a feeling that you are actually in the space of the Jazz club this record was done in. A wonderful display of musicality and skill, as well as a great way to relax with great gear. I have nothing else to say that's already been said.

Final Thoughts:
I can't really say anything bad about the JH13Pro, especially when they sound as amazing as this. I know it seems like just a lot of praise but its well worth it. Of those friends whose ears magically fit my JH13s, I can say that all of them love the resolution and clarity these CIEMs bring. If you like clarity and resolution, with a touch of warmth, I'd gladly recommend these CIEMs to you. I can't wait for what else JH Audio will come up with, but I expect it to be amazing (I'm looking at you, Roxanne!)
 

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Nice review. I haven't heard the Tralucent silver/gold but am surprised it woks this well with the 13. The ones I've tried didn't pair better than stock. If you're running balanced and that's your balanced cable, I get it and cables don't always sound like we expect anyway.:smile:

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