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post #9586 of 10370
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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post
 

...... IEMs like the 8A, 334 and SE5 have a thicker sound. ....

 

http://www.head-fi.org/a/describing-sound-a-glossary

 

And also Shure 846 :p 

I don't consider K3003 to be thick either

post #9587 of 10370
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Ahaha :P They are good but the imaging and the coherency was just off... Treble sounded fake, and the biggest oops is the price. I compared them to the 1Plus2 directly. 1p2 tore the k3003i apart.

Couldn't disagree more. I own both and definitely consider them on equal footing. My JH13 FP will arrive shortly. Should be fun to compare.

@goodvibes, did you finally settle on an aftermarket cable or are you still sticking with stock?
post #9588 of 10370
Equipped with my new lingo, here I go! The k3003s to me were on the border of being thin and being thick. They had good body to them though I just don't appreciate that kind I sound sig. They are also very rich which I guess contributes to the thickness that I perceive. Anyone who wants to understand what I'm saying is free to listen to my R2ls to get a sense of what I'm saying. Locals only though as I need my r2ls for my daily commute and can't live without them for long periods.
Ps local means any head fier who is in singapore that's willing to meet up.
post #9589 of 10370
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Originally Posted by akhyar View Post

And also Shure 846 tongue.gif  
I don't consider K3003 to be thick either

Ahhhhh the se846s..... They would have been great if not for the lack of separation and a wider soundstage
post #9590 of 10370
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Originally Posted by lookingforIEMs View Post

Equipped with my new lingo, here I go! The k3003s to me were on the border of being thin and being thick. They had good body to them though I just don't appreciate that kind I sound sig. They are also very rich which I guess contributes to the thickness that I perceive. Anyone who wants to understand what I'm saying is free to listen to my R2ls to get a sense of what I'm saying. Locals only though as I need my r2ls for my daily commute and can't live without them for long periods.
Ps local means any head fier who is in singapore that's willing to meet up.

 

The thing is if you find the AKGs to be on the thicker side yet that isn't a problem for you on the Merlin I don't know what to say? Just putting two and two together doesn't add up? Basically I don't know how anyone can properly recommend you an IEM until that is cleared up. Otherwise you may be disappointed in a recommendation which is still a possibility regardless.... Are you looking for a V-shaped sound signature? Maybe the Flat 4 Sui would be your ticket....

post #9591 of 10370
I am mainly looking for a flat sig to satisfy my clarity cravings but am willing to make an exception for the Merlin as its just so clear ( to me, people, to me only ) and yet has that bass that works well with the music I listen to
post #9592 of 10370
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Originally Posted by lookingforIEMs View Post

I am mainly looking for a flat sig to satisfy my clarity cravings but am willing to make an exception for the Merlin as its just so clear ( to me, people, to me only ) and yet has that bass that works well with the music I listen to

 

Well the AKG3003 is along the lines of neutral. So is the 1Plus2 but they are noticeably different in their overall presentations IMO. Maybe consider looking into the UERM thread? Supposedly that is one of the most neutral IEMs available if Flat is what you are after.

post #9593 of 10370
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Originally Posted by lookingforIEMs View Post

Interesting. To me the 3DD sounded very thick though I might call it slightly balanced with a large soundstage. They sound a bit similar to the k3003s in terms of how the sound seems thick to me. Nonetheless, the k3003s are on another level and sound amazing, just not what I'm after. They don't have the broadness ( I'm not too sure what I'm saying either haha) that the Merlins or the miracles or the dba02-mkII has. Still, kkcc, my opinions are only about the Pre freqphase models so I'll pop back in when I hear the post freqphase models and definitely the fitear models. I found the parterres and f111s just a bit lacking in clarity though, contrary to my first impressions of them at the mook headphone festival. So it'll be even more interesting to demo the fitear CIEMs. Any input on fitear's CIEMs compared to their UIEMs?

jh13 fq is definitely better than the old one. give it a try.

they have proper demo for 435 and 335. imo, tg334 is near a ciem level, others no.
post #9594 of 10370
I find it hard to understand Looking's requirements. Re fullness or re flat but with bass etc.... pls ignore any of my recommendations I migth have given as I most probably do not understand what you want.... cheers
post #9595 of 10370
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Originally Posted by kkcc View Post

I find it hard to understand Looking's requirements. Re fullness or re flat but with bass etc.... pls ignore any of my recommendations I migth have given as I most probably do not understand what you want.... cheers
Haha dude no I think I should make myself clearer ( no pun intended ). I'm looking for a flat or neutral sound sig that has good extension on both ends and also great instrument separation and soundstage. No, the UM Merlins do NOT fall into that category. But it comes close. The only reason why I consider it is the Merlins have just a boosted sub bass compared to my definition of neutrality. So yes it will be hard to recommend something for me haha, might also be the reason why I've been burning through my previous iems in just 9 months
post #9596 of 10370
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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post

Well the AKG3003 is along the lines of neutral. So is the 1Plus2 but they are noticeably different in their overall presentations IMO. Maybe consider looking into the UERM thread? Supposedly that is one of the most neutral IEMs available if Flat is what you are after.
Question: do the k3003s have a boosted mid bass? That may be the reason why I find it not quite right for me
post #9597 of 10370
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Originally Posted by lookingforIEMs View Post

Question: do the k3003s have a boosted mid bass? That may be the reason why I find it not quite right for me

No, it has boosted sub bass. I owned the Merlin and its sub bass was more boosted than the k3k IMO. The Merlin does have good clarity for a bass oriented signature due to the bass being sub bass focused. Perhaps the PP6 from UM would be up your alley, although it is very pricey.
post #9598 of 10370
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Couldn't disagree more. I own both and definitely consider them on equal footing. My JH13 FP will arrive shortly. Should be fun to compare.

@goodvibes, did you finally settle on an aftermarket cable or are you still sticking with stock?

 

I think so. I got a home made one off bst from a Singapore Headfier. I need to do some more listening but it seems about right. $50 hybrid cable. Was good when I 1st got it but the pins were small and it could get just a hair glassy at times. I hang my IEMs to untangle them before listening and it disconcerting to have them drop of the cable.:blink: I decided to rebuild it at both ends to switch the positive to copper and have better fitting pins. (I reused relatively cheap bits I got from Luna shops.) There may be something better but I have no complaints right now and don't think about the sound when listening. Sounds similar to stock but more substantial, with a well integrated midbass and less hash.

 

I'd just use the stock until broken in and go from there. Let me know if you want a link. The best HiEnd cable I tried was the Twag V3. I haven't liked any gold added ones on the JH13fp.

post #9599 of 10370
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Originally Posted by lookingforIEMs View Post


Question: do the k3003s have a boosted mid bass? That may be the reason why I find it not quite right for me

 

I haven't heard the Merlin but judging from Shanes and your comments, the JH13 may be for you. It's very linear from midbass to top but has some low bass emphasis below 100hz or so. It continues to rise to 20hz and doesn't sound unnatural. I've always felt low bass should have a similar curve to that in IEMs.

 

I don't know if it compensates for channel crosstalk in acoustic environments or if it's just the different format but I like it. It may be a touch more than needed with some sources but sounds near perfect with others or when on the go. Close enough and non intrusive. Bass is a tough nut on IEMs as the best mixes are on speakers. I dead flat IEM (subject to weighting) wont give the same presentation.


Edited by goodvibes - 9/26/13 at 6:02am
post #9600 of 10370
Will do guys, def gonna head down to jaben two weeks later after my exams to try some stuff out, including the JH13s. also gonna try the FADs to see what the fuss is all about.
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