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Originally Posted by Lil' Knight View Post
Do the JH13s sound like the HD600s? The HD600s are by far my favorite dynamic headphones. Would be great if the JH13s sound as good as the HD600s.

BTW, anyone knows a good place to make ear impressions near Garden Grove? "OMG, OMG, I'm going to order them! It must be crazily good!"
They don't really sound like an HD600 but if you like HD600 you will like the JH13Pro. If you take an HD600 and add better base extension and power, and make the soundstage deeper, and remove the slight veil over the details, and speed up the transient response, and tweak a few other things then you might get close to a JH13Pro.
post #2117 of 10336
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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict View Post
They don't really sound like an HD600 but if you like HD600 you will like the JH13Pro. If you take an HD600 and add better base extension and power, and make the soundstage deeper, and remove the slight veil over the details, and speed up the transient response, and tweak a few other things then you might get close to a JH13Pro.
x google. Too damn funny HPA. But that is it in a nutshell.
post #2118 of 10336
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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict View Post
They don't really sound like an HD600 but if you like HD600 you will like the JH13Pro. If you take an HD600 and add better base extension and power, and make the soundstage deeper, and remove the slight veil over the details, and speed up the transient response, and tweak a few other things then you might get close to a JH13Pro.
Sounds like a balanced B22 + HD600s.

How about the soundstage? The best soundstage I've heard in the portable phones is from my Yuin PK1.
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More sneak peek into my JH13Pro thoughts (to put into my review)

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Originally Posted by Pale Rider View Post
After these last few posts, I got out my Westone 3s. When I first got them, I didn't hear the sibilance that some others had identified. At the time, they were replacing a pair of stolen UM2s, and my only other point of reference was my Etys. But the difference between the 13s' non-strident detail and what I would now call the W3's sizzle--that may be too strong; zing might be better--is pretty clear. I think I am going to do a little more comparison. But I do not hear any "magically smoothing out" going on with my 13s. All the detail of cymbals, snares, sticks, high violin registers and female vocals is there, but without the edge. It's the difference between making it look/feel/hear easy versus straining to get the job done. Whether the W3s are trying too hard, or are for some other reason too forward above 5-6k, I think that difference is where some of the musicality gets lost in the W3s.
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Originally Posted by Lil' Knight View Post
Sounds like a balanced B22 + HD600s.

How about the soundstage? The best soundstage I've heard in the portable phones is from my Yuin PK1.
I can appreciate what you are saying about W3 vs JH13Pro. I'll break part of my silence in advance of my 3-flagship review to talk about JH13Pro vs W3. Sorry Sinocelt, you still have to wait for the review...

Switching to my W3 with UM56 custom tips, after using the JH13Pro and the IE8, I hear no "sizzle" (only slight zing) with my W3, but I can get some "zing" to it with single flange silicone tips. It's amazing what these UM56 custom tips to for the W3 sound, and they bring the W3 highs closer to sounding "magically smoothed out". And I agree, the JH13Pro need no smoothing out, as there is no edge nor anything missing.

Nevertheless, where I hear the biggest differences are in the deep bass peak of the JH13Pro (50Hz) vs the mid/upper bass peak of the W3, where the power and impact are increased with the JH13Pro without artificially coloring the sound (psychoacousticly almost felt more than heard).

The next is the somewhat smaller soundstage of the W3 - it's like the difference you hear when switching between listening to HD600 single ended vs HD600 balanced. I used to think of the W3 soundstage as large before I got several high end customs, now I consider it good but not the best. In a similar example, I also used to think of the Woo WA6 amp as having a big soundstage till I heard the same phones on the balanced WA22 and EC ZDT amps. Seems like there is always something better to replace your previous "best".

The next big difference with the JH13Pro is in the detail and transparency, especially in complex musical passages where the JH13Pro almost sound as if there is one dedicated driver per instrument with reproduction of the utmost clarity and resolution. While in comparison to such high-end customs the W3 almost seem to blend the sounds all together.
post #2120 of 10336
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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict View Post
The next big difference with the JH13Pro is in the detail and transparency, especially in complex musical passages where the JH13Pro almost sound as if there is one dedicated driver per instrument with reproduction of the utmost clarity and resolution. While in comparison to such high-end customs the W3 almost seem to blend the sounds all together.
Wow. You've said a lot of glorifying things about the ES3X... but nothing to this caliber. I don't mean to spill your beans, but it seems like you have a new favorite.
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I don't like SE530, it is the worst purchase I have made among my TF10 Pro, Westone 3, ER4P, and CK100 (to me anyway). With the coarse details and shallow base SE530 is definitely not worth its price, albeit its smoothness in the mids (CK100 sounds a lot sweeter and smoother than SE530 without losing details).

My question: does JH-13 sound like SE530?
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post #2123 of 10336
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Originally Posted by googleli View Post
I don't like SE530, it is the worst purchase I have made among my TF10 Pro, Westone 3, ER4P, and CK100 (to me anyway). With the coarse details and shallow bass SE530 is definitely not worth its price, albeit its smoothness in the mids (CK100 sounds a lot sweeter and smoother than SE530 without losing details).

My question: does JH-13 sound like SE530?
What exactly do you mean? If you've read any of this thread you will realize that the SE530 don't even remotely compare to the 13s.

So what specifically do you dislike about the SE530 that you want to avoid in the 13s?
post #2124 of 10336
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Originally Posted by GTL View Post
They look spectacular hotdoggie! Is that glitter on the faceplate?
Thanks, they do look spectacular. And, they look nice in different lighting conditions too! I believe the reflective dust particles were mixed into the acrylic when they made the faceplates; thus, they settled in different angles and depths. As such, different specks shine depending on the angle I look at them. Moreover, some specks give off a bluish shine (those settled within the faceplates) whereas others give off a silver shine (those settled very near the surface of the faceplates). So, if you meant whether they were just sprinkled onto the faceplates? The answer I think is "No". Plus, I cannot feel them when I touch the faceplates. When I call Adam tomorrow, I will ask him to make sure though. By the way, the artworks are clear-coated. For your information, the symbol is done in a matte silver finish.

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Originally Posted by schai View Post
hotdoggie
your's JH13 is very nice, and after you burn over 50 hours ,you will suprise more first listen
I cannot say for sure whether it is just mental burn-in, crossover burn-in, or just that I have perfected their insertions, but they have been blowing me away constantly--trust me, it took way way less than 50 hours for that to happen.

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Originally Posted by SpudHarris View Post
Hotdoggie's JH13's look fantastic. I hope the quality of the artwork is as good on mine (when they get here). It is encouraging though to see such good work & that colour is just awesome......
Believe it or not, part of the reason why I am going to call them tomorrow is because I want them to know that their good work will not go unappreciated. By doing so, I hope such encouragement will help "fuel" them to maintain a high standard, or maybe even try to reach for a higher standard. I have always find that artistic people, including chefs, really appreciate it when people notice their great work. This may sound corny, but hopefully, the end result is that more future owners of the JH13s, etc., will be as happy as I am with mine.
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I am going to answer a pm qusp sent me and let anyone else know who is curious where I have my set of jh-13 connectors from. The original cable I had with my jh-13's had a defective mini plug which worked but needed to be replaced so I have 2 cables now and I salvaged the connectors of the lemon cable and am using it for a diy one.
post #2126 of 10336
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Originally Posted by rlanger View Post
What exactly do you mean? If you've read any of this thread you will realize that the SE530 don't even remotely compare to the 13s.

So what specifically do you dislike about the SE530 that you want to avoid in the 13s?
The coarseness of sound (lack of details) and shallow bass are the main reasons why I dislike SE530.

How do the JH-13s compare with ER4P in terms of details?
post #2127 of 10336
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Originally Posted by googleli View Post
I don't like SE530, it is the worst purchase I have made among my TF10 Pro, Westone 3, ER4P, and CK100 (to me anyway). With the coarse details and shallow base SE530 is definitely not worth its price, albeit its smoothness in the mids (CK100 sounds a lot sweeter and smoother than SE530 without losing details).

My question: does JH-13 sound like SE530?
How dare you comparing the SE530 to the JH13?! Just kidding. I do own the SE530, and the JH13 just eats the SE530 for lunch.
post #2128 of 10336
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Originally Posted by googleli View Post
The coarseness of sound (lack of details) and shallow bass are the main reasons that I dislike about SE530.
Nope, none of that evident in the JH-13s.
post #2129 of 10336
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Originally Posted by qusp View Post
waiting for JH13->buffalo32 as thought these things are able to scale quite well by the sounds of it. anyone using these with their top shelf dacs??
I've been using my JH13s through Buffalo>P-51 and it does sound much better than my imod.
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Originally Posted by Ricey20 View Post
I've been using my JH13s through Buffalo>P-51 and it does sound much better than my imod.
No they don't! They sound just perfect out of any old mp3 player. You can't make me get an amp I tell you. No way, no how.
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