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post #2056 of 10370
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Originally Posted by gilency View Post
I own the ES3X and have no doubt whatsoever the JH13 are as good if not better
Hm. Personally, I'll always have at least a tiny doubt about what I can't see -- er, hear by myself.

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Originally Posted by gilency View Post
(my Daddy is bigger than yours)
Oh yeah? Oh yeah? Too bad for you, then! My father is smaller and has more drivers, too!
post #2057 of 10370
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Originally Posted by Iron_Dreamer View Post
Trust me, there is nothing crazy about him liking the JH13 over the HD800. Edwood will vouch for this as well, since he bought, and subsequently returned the HD800.

Since the JH13 arrived, I have listened to my L3000 several times, and its' prognosis is not looking good.

Sooner or later, people are going to have to accept that the JH13 plays on a level amongst the very highest quality headphones.
I also prefer the JH13s to the HD800s, which are now boxed up and waiting to be shipped to their new home tomorrow. I also prefer them to every headphone I've owned, with maybe the exception of R10s and O2s. If given the proper source (I had them hooked up to my Exemplar modified Denon 2900 and a Denon DCP100 last night using the pico as an amp), I emphatically agree with Iron Dreamer. These are some of the best headphones I've ever heard.

I've been not posting much about these, hoping I'll sort of calm down, get some perspective, not be all OMG these rule, blah blah blah, maybe toss in a couple audiophile words to sound profound while trying to accurately describe what I'm hearing. Can't do it yet. I'm still in the OMG I can't believe how freaking good these are stage. I'm not sure when I'm coming out. Maybe it's just personal preferences, but I cannot find no fault at all.

I will say that source choice seems to be the primary limiting factor, as far as I have been able to discover. I don't know how anyone likes the sound of the 3g iphone, which isn't as good as my 1g itouch or my very old nano. Even unamped with ipods or macbook, the JH13s sound better than any iems I've heard and better than many full-sized headphones. When using the pico as an amp and not a dac with the ipods, there are minor improvements, but with a LOD and the pico amp/dac, the JH13s enter into high-end headphone level. I was messing around with my main rig cdp and pico last night, listening to redbook, sacd, and K2 HD and xrcds, and however awkward I feel in saying this, I'm going to say and stand by my opinion that the JH13s are one of the top 5-8 headphones I've ever heard, and those headphones are all fullsize.

My new obsession is building the perfect rig for them. I only have the pico as an amp right now (my SP is too noisy). I'd like to try out some others. I'm so impressed with the JH13s ability to scale with different sources, I'm really wondering what a genuine high-end dac would allow.

Just one little omg moment: I've been listening to Paul Chambers Mosaic Select 5 for the past couple nights. I still don't understand how I could hear the exact placement of each piece of Elvin Jones's drum kit as well as all the other instruments perfectly, and yet find the music cohesive, full, not pin-needled detailed, but rich, emotional, and...well...omg.

Back to listening now.....
post #2058 of 10370
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Originally Posted by shigzeo View Post
sadly, i have come to trust my own ears more than anyone else's when it comes to reviews of earphones! (silly is it not?)
Whoa, whoa, whoa...

You trust YOUR own ears? What has this site come to?
post #2059 of 10370
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Originally Posted by jamato8 View Post
My first posts on the 13's were that good. I wasn't happy with the sound for the money spent and felt they sounded nothing like what had been described. For the first 2 days I thought I may have made a 1000+ dollar blunder. Not now (do I think it was a blunder/waste of money) but I was not bowled over at first and will only report what I hear, good or bad.
When I got sensaphonics 2x-s's, I wasn't blown away at first either. I think I needed time to get used to custom iems. But after a couple of days I was quite happy with them and still am. Of course I still want to try the jh-13's at some point. I'm also curious how they might sound balanced on my headroom BUDA with UDAC. Seems to me that it wouldn't be too hard to get an extra cable and re-terminate them to xlr!
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Yes, with these sound reproducers it now becomes an interesting search for that ultra top end portable/home setup. I like using my iRivers for their hard drive and optical out so that limits but not quite. I also just modified one of my 140's with some very good internal coupling caps that still allow me to use my 120gb drive so I can go with line out and get very good sound. So now the amp, which there are some very fine portables and one Very big surprise coming up.
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Originally Posted by boomana View Post
I will say that source choice seems to be the primary limiting factor, as far as I have been able to discover. I don't know how anyone likes the sound of the 3g iphone, which isn't as good as my 1g itouch or my very old nano.
I can agree with a lot of what you said, but this iPhone 3G SQ comment I cannot agree with. My iPhone 3G has one of the most transparent, spacious, detailed, refined and balanced headphone out amongst all the iPods I have owned. Side by side with my daughter's 2G Touch it's no contest, with the 2G Touch being brighter and edgier and more forward sounding. I could not tolerate listening to the 2G Touch via headphone out for long without being irritated. My 4G Nano is the same way, while my 3G Nano was a little more enjoyable. My 2G Nano is more smoothed out, rolled off and less dynamic, as is my 5.5G iPod video headphone out - fortunately the JH13Pro make even those old iPods sound good.

Sure, the Pico DAC/amp sounds better out of the LOD or computer, but the iPhone 3G and 3GS are not that bad for headphones. I was even surprised at how well it drives my RS-1 and HD-600. While I MUST use an amp with my 4G Nano, I am very happy to use the iPhone 3G and 3GS with no amp.

There you have it.
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Maybe I got a bum iphone, but I find it quite grainy, and have this impression with my esw10s and UE11s as well.
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Originally Posted by boomana View Post
Maybe I got a bum iphone, but I find it quite grainy, and have this impression with my esw10s and UE11s as well.
Wierd - now comparing the 2G Touch and iPhone 3G makes the Touch sound grainy...
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hmmm. My 1g itouch isn't the best, for sure, but noticeably less grainy/hissy than my iphone. Maybe I should try someone else's iphone out. I've really disliked mine from day one, and have only used it once or twice for music.
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Dang dang dang, Mr. Harvey must have made the end all of headphones. Nothing beats the comfort and portability of IEMs. At this point, all anyone needs is a pair of JH13s and a speaker system for when the friends come over!
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Originally Posted by boomana View Post
hmmm. My 1g itouch isn't the best, for sure, but noticeably less grainy/hissy than my iphone. Maybe I should try someone else's iphone out. I've really disliked mine from day one, and have only used it once or twice for music.
Maybe you need to burn it in?
post #2067 of 10370
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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict View Post
Maybe you need to burn it in?
I LOL'd

My touch 2g 32gb> wifes iphone 3g 16gb in sound quality coming out of it - lossless rips
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I actually prefer my 3gs to the 3g (I still own both) the 3gs has more bass emphasis which I felt the 3g lacked a bit. But the 3gs makes me want to sell my portable amp and just use a better semi portable home rig instead because the bulk doesn't seem quite worth it anymore.
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Originally Posted by hockeyb213 View Post
I actually prefer my 3gs to the 3g (I still own both) the 3gs has more bass emphasis which I felt the 3g lacked a bit. But the 3gs makes me want to sell my portable amp and just use a better semi portable home rig instead because the bulk doesn't seem quite worth it anymore.
You may be right about that - although I now have the 3GS I still have a 3G with an active SIM card, so I need to do more comparisons later. When I got the 32Gb 3GS I traded my old 16Gb 3G to Blutarsky for his 8Gb and cash, so I'd have a spare and some money instead of selling it outright for cash.
post #2070 of 10370
Yeah I don't know if apple is using a new dac or some new parts in there but I have most definitely noticed a difference between the two
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