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post #1546 of 10362
You would need about 10 feet of piccolino (2 conductors per cable) to make a iem cable if anyone was curious X by the amount per foot and you have a hefty priced cable
post #1547 of 10362
got JH 13. uploaded some pics.

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Originally Posted by barbes View Post
I got my JH13s about an hour ago (Brittany made sure they got to me in my hotel in LA, where I am right now). I'm listening to lossless files from a Classic through an ALO lod and an iQube.

They're wonderful. I've been using UE11s and the JH13s are better in every respect. All ranges are better defined, the bass especially is much tighter (I never thought the 11s bass was bad or overemphasized, as some do, but this bass is much more natural sounding), voices and instruments are much more defined and separated, silences are really silent. They're clearly more analytical than the 11s, but they're also more musical and fun. Amazing.

I've been completely spoiled by my iMod, which has been back to Vinnie to fix a glitch, and have hated listening to my Classic. Right now I don't mind it a bit. (But I can't wait to hear these through the iMod...)

The hype is all real.

I am using iMod, with RSA P51 (& maybe a few other ones SOON), wiht my new JH13 pro!
I totally agree with what you mentioned.
Ha, and YES, after using iMod, I don't think I can really go back to iPod...unless my iMod is charging and I HAVE to listen to any music

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Originally Posted by Jensen View Post
Unlike barbes, I haven't heard the UE11 but come from SE530's as I've stated previously. I also owned the Westone 3 for a month so can compare to those as well.

Initial Impressions:

I'll start by saying there is really no point to comparing these to universals, they're quite obviously in a different league. But universals are still my reference point since these are my first customs. I'm going to just write a few random thoughts as I listen.


The 13's go low. I'm talking all the way down. I hear bass that I didn't know existed in songs up until now. The low bass frequencies extend farther than either the W3 or SE530, which roll off in comparison. The midbass is less than the W3 though.

The highs extend all the way out, as far as I can tell. No sibilance, which was a big concern for me. Totally smooth.

The mids are perfect. Nothing was lost coming from the Shure's.


There has been no burn in that I can detect, just as I expected. They sounded immaculate from the second I hit play.

Fit is perfect. Took me no time to figure out how to insert the customs. They actually just suck themselves into place and auto seal.

I'm trying to find something to complain about to not make it sound like a biased, hype review. I guess I could say that while the fit is perfect, having customs might take a bit of getting used to - only because I'm used to soft universal tips not hard acrylic. I think that will just take a little getting used to though.

While we still don't have flying cars in 2009, at least portable audio is finally really ****ing good.
Haha
Quite agree
I am a 1st timer for CM, and as for JH13 pro as my 1st pair, I don't regret my decision to be poor with empty wallet. I gives me what I am looking for , as close as I probably can get from a iem (not sure about big cans for now, will try some end of the year when I'm back in HK for holiday). But yes...I start thinking if I should sell my other universal iems....
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Originally Posted by seanc85 View Post
got JH 13. uploaded some pics.

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Thanks for sharing!
Mine is also clear black shell =)
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Originally Posted by ok computer View Post
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f21/ul...colino-385593/

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f103/h...le-iem-412450/

The Crystal Cable Piccolo cable for LiveWires IEMs - A Review

Come on guys, don't shoot the poor guy down. You guys might want to try doing some research instead of saying that his claims are completely baseless. And there is obviously some amount of exaggeration, but there is no need to be rude to the guy.
Agreed. There is enough good info in these and other links to make this worth investigating.

I have three questions for the folks here:
%0
post #1551 of 10362
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Originally Posted by ok computer View Post
Come on guys, don't shoot the poor guy down. You guys might want to try doing some research instead of saying that his claims are completely baseless. And there is obviously some amount of exaggeration, but there is no need to be rude to the guy.
Making claims as extreme as he did about just about any cable are nearly always inflated/exaggerated/baseless/pick-your-adjective. Because the bottom line is, that cables are second lowest rung of the ladder, in terms of how great an impact on sound quality they make, far behind transducers (headphones/earphones/speakers), source material, source equipment, amplification, and clean power. And ahead of only "tweaks" like cable elevators, CD demagnetizers, etc.

I could frankly care less how great or not great this cable is. My entire original point was to drop the cable shilling, and take it to the cable forum, where people can debate how great or not great the cable might be, as we already know that the JH13 is great, regardless.

Personally, I find the trend on Head-Fi in recent years toward unabated shilling quite rude, and I will do my part to end it, when and where I can. I don't know whether or not he is shilling these cables, but the more information he continues to post about their background, how they are made, by whom, why, etc, continues to stoke the fires of my curiosity. I am also especially suspicious, because cables are the easiest product to shill, as their impact is hotly debated, while they are cheap and easy for almost anyone to manufacture and distribute.

My words were not personal, I would have said the same things to any other member who had made such extreme and suspect claims.

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Originally Posted by seanc85 View Post
got JH 13. uploaded some pics.

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Wow, looks super! I love the white/red left/right touch.
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Originally Posted by Edwood View Post
That doesn't mean anything. Anyone that has met Jerry in person knows how incredibly polite and nice he is.

And did Uncle Wilson bring Piccolino cables that fit Westone ES / JH Audio customs?
Don't know - I did see Uncle Wilson brought several Piccolino LOD, and Jerry might have actually been using one (or someone at his table was when demoing the JH IEM demos).
post #1553 of 10362
I'll just make it simple. I love finding out what goes on with all these things like background of big on noise even though it gives me no benefit. It's like reading up on my favourite musicians to understand them better. I understand that it can make people feel doubtful about my origins. But if you know me, which is impossible for anyone here, I ask a lot of questions before buying anything.

I agree with you the cables and interconnects are of little significance when you compare them to the in ear monitors, source and amplifiers. But as again every change to me when I try things out is humongous to me. Because if you know how the frequency response changes you'll understand how it makes or breaks the reality of the sound. Then again every small change is big to me so yes you might want to take my comments and tone it down a bit. If there's something even slightly off during a cross compare it can mean a lot to me.

I love my music. That's why I say and do things with such extremes.
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Enough about the Piccalino cables. Start another thread. This thread is about the JH13.
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Originally Posted by seanc85 View Post
got JH 13. uploaded some pics.

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Very nice pics.
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Originally Posted by makotype View Post
I think what envy was trying to ask is how exactly does the QC team come to the conclusion that a monitor is not up to spec. For example, are they pointing the monitor into a mic, then make the decision depending on the results from what the mic picks up?
I apologize for any confusion this is what I was trying to ask. This question would not only apply to JH but the makers of any customs. Its good that they are able to determine the quality of the SQ on a custom.
post #1557 of 10362

Congratulations!

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Originally Posted by yukari View Post
hehe
I am gal~I am getting my 13pro today!!!
Hope it will fit perfectly ~
I also am waiting for 13pro.
Therefore, I understand your pleasure.
It was really good.

おめでとー!
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Originally Posted by Wateramong View Post
I also am waiting for 13pro.
Therefore, I understand your pleasure.
It was really good.

おめでとー!

ありがとう~
post #1559 of 10362
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Is it worth upgrading from SE530s to the 13 Pro if I am using 256kbps AAC tracks?
I can't distinguish 256AAC from lossless. Having gone from SE530s to UE10 and then UE11 all with 256AAC, I can tell you it's definitely worth it. The big factor is not the losslessness of your files but the quality of your source. Once you hear a pair of customs through an iMod/vCap dock or better, you cannot go back.
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Originally Posted by Iron_Dreamer View Post
Making claims as extreme as he did about just about any cable are nearly always inflated/exaggerated/baseless/pick-your-adjective. Because the bottom line is, that cables are second lowest rung of the ladder, in terms of how great an impact on sound quality they make, far behind transducers (headphones/earphones/speakers), source material, source equipment, amplification, and clean power. And ahead of only "tweaks" like cable elevators, CD demagnetizers, etc.

I could frankly care less how great or not great this cable is. My entire original point was to drop the cable shilling, and take it to the cable forum, where people can debate how great or not great the cable might be, as we already know that the JH13 is great, regardless.

Personally, I find the trend on Head-Fi in recent years toward unabated shilling quite rude, and I will do my part to end it, when and where I can. I don't know whether or not he is shilling these cables, but the more information he continues to post about their background, how they are made, by whom, why, etc, continues to stoke the fires of my curiosity. I am also especially suspicious, because cables are the easiest product to shill, as their impact is hotly debated, while they are cheap and easy for almost anyone to manufacture and distribute.

My words were not personal, I would have said the same things to any other member who had made such extreme and suspect claims.

As again... Healthy amount of skepticism never hurts. And I understand that you are purely trying to stop people from over-hyping and selling a product etc. and I have to say that it's a respectable thing to do. But work it out yourself about these cables. "Easy to make" and "Cheap" wouldn't be how I would be classifying the materials myself.

Anyway someone did mention to me that the fact that the JH13 is so clear, might be a major cause of the fact that the difference is huge to me, so I'll be sharing my opinions on it. But if so it's truly a testament to the abilities to the JH13. Which I have loved since I popped them into my ears.
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