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post #9901 of 10288

I'm there. I may play with another cable at some point but not much desire to move on right now. I waited a couple years to buy and then Freqphase happened so I jumped.

 

I was thinking about the Roxanne and whether Jerry might do a 6 driver model without adjustable bass in the jh13/16 price range. :confused: I guess it could even have adjustable bass with the 2 woofers. 1 full out and the other adjustable. I'm sure that if anything like that happens, it's a very long ways off so I'll just smile with my 13s.


Edited by goodvibes - 2/7/14 at 3:30pm
post #9902 of 10288
Wouldn't a six driver without adjustable bass be the 13?
post #9903 of 10288
You can send your Roxanne cable to DHC with your favorite bass dialed in and he can make you a cable with that resistor setting only. It makes the bass module a lot smaller on the cable.
post #9904 of 10288
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Originally Posted by Poimandres View Post

Wouldn't a six driver without adjustable bass be the 13?

 

The 13 doesn't have adjustable bass unless your speaking about equalization or amping.

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Exactly my point and that is what I stated.
post #9906 of 10288
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Exactly my point and that is what I stated.
If that the case i do agree, i also agree that Jh should come up with new cables, like a better mic and control cable or an adjustable bass cable. i also wish the cables were thicker although they are durable.
Edited by EpicAnthony - 2/7/14 at 5:38pm
post #9907 of 10288
Nice summation Kernel. I am definitely looking forward to receiving mine next Friday. Together with my R10 I hope that these are end game.
post #9908 of 10288
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Exactly my point and that is what I stated.

Different drivers, just 1/2 of them. The 13 fp is only 1 year old and a very successful tune, unlikely we see any changes for a year or 2.

post #9909 of 10288

I received my JH13 Pro over the weekend and I am underwhelmed. 

 

Firstly, there is excessive cable noise, be it walking (thump, thump from my footsteps) or just turn my head even slightly. Not sure if it is due to fit issues or otherwise. The seal is good, meaning I cannot hear sound around me. I did wear them as instructed, twisting the earpiece in and then pushing it into the ears.

 

Next, the sound quality is not what I expected. I'm not sure how to explain it, perhaps the best word is, it sounds congested. Not the airy, sparkly sound when I demo the universal JH13. Also, the mids sounds recessed. I listen them from an iPhone 5s. Again, this might be fit issues.

 

Bear in mind, I came from Westone4 (the older ones without replacement cable) and with comply largest and longest foam tips.

 

What should I do next, refit?

post #9910 of 10288

3 things.

 

You have to wrap the ear guides so they press against the back of your ear. Their cable and construction is no different than any other CIEM regarding cable noise.

 

People need to stop making sound quality statements on very revealing kit before they have 100hrs of use. It can be misleading.

 

 3rd is that even though they feel like they fit, the bores may be partially restricted by either your ear geometry or wax. You wouldn't be the 1st to clog a CIEM on 1st listen. 

 

JH13 may not be for everybody but congested in not an apt description of any working pair.

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Originally Posted by goodvibes View Post
 

3 things.

 

You have to wrap the ear guides so they press against the back of your ear. Their cable and construction is no different than any other CIEM regarding cable noise.

 

People need to stop making sound quality statements on very revealing kit before they have 100hrs of use. It can be misleading.

 

 3rd is that even though they feel like they fit, the bores may be partially restricted by either your ear geometry or wax. You wouldn't be the 1st to clog a CIEM on 1st listen. 

 

JH13 may not be for everybody but congested in not an apt description of any working pair.

 

Not sure 100hrs applies to BAs....but that's another discussion :wink_face:

 

Cable noise can be reduced also be tightening the strap under the chin. Unfortunately this seems to be very common with stock cables. In fact the only cable I ever found which was 100% quiet was the stock ACS cable which was wrapped in Kevlar and had a rubber feel to it. However it was very prone to taking on the memory of wrapping them up  - I guess that's the trade off.

 

If I had to describe the JH13 FP - congested and recessed are not adjectives I would use to describe them.

 

I too would guess that either they are not inserted properly, the fit is wrong(is there any pain?) or you may have clogged up the tubes with wax

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There is no pain. Looking through the tubes, they do not look clogged.

Will try tightening the cable behind my ear tomorrow and report back.
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Try moving the housings around a bit to see if possibly the angle of the nozzle outlets are being obscured by a part of your ear canal. You'll lose seal but you may hear it open up a bit. You can have a good fit generally but the nozzle exit could be angled wrong. If this is the case, they'll need to compare it to your impressions and may require new impressions.
post #9914 of 10288

The last few messages all contain excellent advice.  I'd take issue with '100 hours'.  I've had my Jh13Pro for a while now and have noticed zero changes over time; it should sound great right out of the box (assuming a decent source and music files 320 and better).

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I think even Jerry says they change a bit. Mine were more midbassy and less extended both directions with bit less fine detail for a few days. I listen to different stuff all day so don't suffer from my ear acclimating to something. ie:  BBI

 

Personal opinion and...dropping it.:deadhorse: 


Edited by goodvibes - 2/11/14 at 3:50pm
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