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post #9901 of 10090
Glad to hear that you are enjoying them. I just called today to have my 13's expedited as they just received my impressions last Friday. They are slated to ship on the 13th and deliver on the 14th. Very excited and well worth the extra 100.
post #9902 of 10090
Just officially jumped on the JH13s' bandwagon. Well it has been a while saving up and trying to make the leap, but I sure do hope they live up to all the rave reviews out there. I don't dare think this will be my end game IEM, but it should at least serve as a stopping point for quite some time smily_headphones1.gif
post #9903 of 10090
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Originally Posted by 3nenbgumi View Post

Just officially jumped on the JH13s' bandwagon. Well it has been a while saving up and trying to make the leap, but I sure do hope they live up to all the rave reviews out there. I don't dare think this will be my end game IEM, but it should at least serve as a stopping point for quite some time smily_headphones1.gif

I've been selling off all my other IEMs and kept the JH13 Freq Ph model as they are simply that good that I don't want anything else...well maybe the Roxanne when reviews eventually start to appear.

 

With the JH13s be so revealing, keep in mind Sh*t in, Sh*t out ! Make sure you feed them with the best sources that you can.

post #9904 of 10090
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Originally Posted by kryten123 View Post
 

I've been selling off all my other IEMs and kept the JH13 Freq Ph model as they are simply that good that I don't want anything else...well maybe the Roxanne when reviews eventually start to appear.

 

With the JH13s be so revealing, keep in mind Sh*t in, Sh*t out ! Make sure you feed them with the best sources that you can.

Thanks! 

 

I'm not so sure if the upcoming JH13FP would completely satisfy me like it did in your case, but the one thing I'm certain is that with its addition all of my bases are pretty much covered. With no further IEM purchases in sight, hopefully I could put some of the money into a decent source somewhere down the line. Used to own a DX100, while the sound was lovely, the bulk and low battery life were such a pain in the neck that I eventually gave up on it.

post #9905 of 10090
In my opinion the jh13/16 models are endgame iems. Preference obviously comes into play, but I appreciate different sound signatures and the jh models have a unique ability to capture the best qualities of most sound signatures. For example there seems to be trade-offs and sacrifices with iems, where some excel in certain areas and fall noticably short in others. The JH iems do an incredible job at taking many "paradoxical" qualities of different iem's and combining them with a realistic tone.

The opposing qualities that jh seems to combine are

Highs: clear, forward, extended, and very fast while maintaining a realistic decay, smoothness, and minimal sibilance. It seems that many iems are either harsh, peaky, and edgy, clinical, or over-analytical or on the other end of the spectrum they are rolled off, veiled, distant, or tinny. There are some exeptions (4.ai, er4, w4), but usually at the expense of other frequencies.

Mids: The jh iems draw a great compromise between being clear, detailed and accurate while not being dry. Mids seem to be either lush and thick at the expense of clarity, ending up musical but congested and slow, or they are clear and detailed but dry and less smooth. The jh models are lush, liquid, clear, musical, and detailed all at the same time.

Lows: Low frequencies seem to be slightly more subjective in this community than the others, but I don't see how anyone could dislike the lows of the jh13. While I find them lacking in some recordings and kick on the bass boost of the e12, i find i like them more than the jh16's bass simply because of quantity. Somtimes the jh16 bass just gets in the way. But either way they both have amazing low end extension. Again they draw a near perfect compromise between clarity, texture, and impact. They have enough impact to make up for the lack of "feel it in your chest" bass that speakers provide, while not intruding in on the mids or veiling the texture of the bass. It seems that the compromise in bass is impact for texture, or quantity at the expense of quality, and the jh models have both.

Presentation wise, these iem's again seem to blend opposing qualities. They are intimate, impactful, and offer a very forward and in your face presentation. At the same time, they have a very wide soundstage and both presentation and imaging are accurate. My w4's offer great imaging and presentation of sound stage, but they don't have the visceral impact and attack of the jh models. The sheer impact of the notes can make the jh models fatiguing, but I find it engaging. The w4's just sound a little more distant and not so aggressive and "in your face."

The last combination of qualities that i havent found in another iem that is unique to the jh13 is the ability to sound accurate and detailed without sounding thin overall. They are a very full bodied sound, but never get congested or slow. The jh16 has too much bass to accomplish this feat. They almost sound thin without actually sounding thin, if that makes sense. The pfe 232 sounds thin. It is as accurate and as fast as the jh13, but the pfe232 sounds thin, and the jh13 does not, even while maintaining the accuracy, speed, and detail of the pfe 232.

--END GAME--
Edited by kernel8888 - 2/7/14 at 9:20am
post #9906 of 10090
I think any IEM at this level has endgame potential, which everyone knows is defined as enjoy your purchase without a real itch to buy anything else for about 3 years until you start wondering what's going on with the market/hobby, and then you see that everything has changed, so and so absolutely DESTROYS what you considered endgame, and then you go blink.gif and endgame becomes rematch.
post #9907 of 10090

I'm there. I may play with another cable at some point but not much desire to move on right now. I waited a couple years to buy and then Freqphase happened so I jumped.

 

I was thinking about the Roxanne and whether Jerry might do a 6 driver model without adjustable bass in the jh13/16 price range. :confused: I guess it could even have adjustable bass with the 2 woofers. 1 full out and the other adjustable. I'm sure that if anything like that happens, it's a very long ways off so I'll just smile with my 13s.


Edited by goodvibes - 2/7/14 at 3:30pm
post #9908 of 10090
Wouldn't a six driver without adjustable bass be the 13?
post #9909 of 10090
You can send your Roxanne cable to DHC with your favorite bass dialed in and he can make you a cable with that resistor setting only. It makes the bass module a lot smaller on the cable.
post #9910 of 10090
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Originally Posted by Poimandres View Post

Wouldn't a six driver without adjustable bass be the 13?

 

The 13 doesn't have adjustable bass unless your speaking about equalization or amping.

post #9911 of 10090
Exactly my point and that is what I stated.
post #9912 of 10090
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Originally Posted by Poimandres View Post

Exactly my point and that is what I stated.
If that the case i do agree, i also agree that Jh should come up with new cables, like a better mic and control cable or an adjustable bass cable. i also wish the cables were thicker although they are durable.
Edited by EpicAnthony - 2/7/14 at 5:38pm
post #9913 of 10090
Nice summation Kernel. I am definitely looking forward to receiving mine next Friday. Together with my R10 I hope that these are end game.
post #9914 of 10090
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Originally Posted by Poimandres View Post

Exactly my point and that is what I stated.

Different drivers, just 1/2 of them. The 13 fp is only 1 year old and a very successful tune, unlikely we see any changes for a year or 2.

post #9915 of 10090

I received my JH13 Pro over the weekend and I am underwhelmed. 

 

Firstly, there is excessive cable noise, be it walking (thump, thump from my footsteps) or just turn my head even slightly. Not sure if it is due to fit issues or otherwise. The seal is good, meaning I cannot hear sound around me. I did wear them as instructed, twisting the earpiece in and then pushing it into the ears.

 

Next, the sound quality is not what I expected. I'm not sure how to explain it, perhaps the best word is, it sounds congested. Not the airy, sparkly sound when I demo the universal JH13. Also, the mids sounds recessed. I listen them from an iPhone 5s. Again, this might be fit issues.

 

Bear in mind, I came from Westone4 (the older ones without replacement cable) and with comply largest and longest foam tips.

 

What should I do next, refit?

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