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This isn't what some others told me if my memory is correct ;( still would have craved for that extra bump in the treble though when I demoed them. And I actually spent an hour an a half there just comparing different iems but the jh13 was really tempting if it were not for the high price tag and sub par clarity( IMHO)

 

How was it lacking in clarity? What are you comparing this to the Czar? In such a case could you be mistaking brightness for clarity? Although they can go hand in hand to an extent but they are clearly different. Also analytical is another term that comes to mind. But that is if you are referring to the Czar. At least it looks like one from your avatar? :o


Edited by lee730 - 9/26/13 at 12:36am
post #9572 of 10278
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Jaben has the jh13PRO?????? I thought it's the original jh13?

 

They received the demo version of the JH13Pro, JH16Pro maybe about a week or two ago.

They also have the demo version of the FitEar ciems if you're interested.

 

If you want the extra bump in the treble region, be sure to audition the UM Miracle also.

When I auditioned the demo Miracle at Stereo, the sibilance is very pronounce

post #9573 of 10278

lol akhyar I love how you word the last sentence. :D 


Edited by lee730 - 9/26/13 at 1:00am
post #9574 of 10278
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lol akhyar I love how you word the lasted sentence. :D

 

It's a matter of how we define clarity and brightness :p 

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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post

How was it lacking in clarity? What are you comparing this to the Czar? In such a case could you be mistaking brightness for clarity? Although they can go hand in hand to an extent but they are clearly different. Also analytical is another term that comes to mind. But that is if you are referring to the Czar. At least it looks like one from your avatar? redface.gif

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They received the demo version of the JH13Pro, JH16Pro maybe about a week or two ago.
They also have the demo version of the FitEar ciems if you're interested.

If you want the extra bump in the treble region, be sure to audition the UM Miracle also.
When I auditioned the demo Miracle at Stereo, the sibilance is very pronounce
My Iem is not tzar 90 nor tzar350, it's rhapsodio r2l smily_headphones1.gif and wow I should have gone there when they were open frown.gif I was at Adelphi on sunday to go jaben but then the store was closed. I still dk why cos it didn't looked closed, just looked like the lights were off and nobody was there. And yes I've tried miracle and I love them, however I find the Merlins better suited for my love of rock.

No I do not confuse more clarity and more treble together. The jh13 originals were clear with a mighty sub bass and slight mid bass hump but the extra bass ruined the clarity for me. I prefer the Merlins and their superb sub bass that does not affect clarity in any way at all
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Wow so the Merlin had more controlled bass than the old JH-13? That's surprising.... Especially when most of the reviews/comments I've read on the JH-13 is that is along the lines of a neutral sound signature? While the Merin is supposedly bass heavy...


Edited by lee730 - 9/26/13 at 1:06am
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My Iem is not tzar 90 nor tzar350, it's rhapsodio r2l smily_headphones1.gif and wow I should have gone there when they were open frown.gif I was at Adelphi on sunday to go jaben but then the store was closed. I still dk why cos it didn't looked closed, just looked like the lights were off and nobody was there. And yes I've tried miracle and I love them, however I find the Merlins better suited for my love of rock.

No I do not confuse more clarity and more treble together. The jh13 originals were clear with a mighty sub bass and slight mid bass hump but the extra bass ruined the clarity for me. I prefer the Merlins and their superb sub bass that does not affect clarity in any way at all

 

The original JH13 is supposedly NOWHERE near the FreqPhase JH13 in terms of clarity and imaging. Bass is said to also be more along the lines of neutral rather than pronounced, though not flat like UERM. This is what my friend who has both says. My JH16 Freqphase does not lack clarity either, even with its extra bass. I hail from HD800 and LCD3 as well so...

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Perhaps it's my ears..... But actually no the Merlins are not bass heavy. Instead, they offer extremely clean and controlled bass response. This is me coming from a TWFK Iem that's coupled with an SPC cable so my definition of clarity is a lot more developed ( not an insult haha ) so for me the original jh13s were bassy for me. Maybe I'm more into what girls generation here said, maybe I'm more into flat bass. Nonetheless, unless the jh13pros stun me with their sound, I guess I'll stick with the Merlins
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lol well I do have an IEM with TWFK drivers. So I can understand your meaning :). Anyways it was interesting to hear your take on the Merlins. I can appreciate that an IEM can have powerful bass yet very well controlled. Although I still would consider this bassy or bassy heavy. Not saying it would have to necessarily bleed into the mids. Anyways good luck on your search for audio nirvana. :beerchug:

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My friends and I demoed merlin, jh13pro, jh16pro, jh10x3, mh334, mh335, c435, cw-L05qd back to back prior to ordering and 2 guys picked jh13pro, 1 picked jh10x3, and one picked mh335. Merlin was unanimously ranked lowest in terms of clarity and transparency.

I was then dragged by the JH gang to the audiologist that next day to enjoy group discount and share shipping... so now I ended up with yet another pair of IEM.... can't say I am not thrilled by it thought biggrin.gif

Fulfillment is just 3 weeks from JH (vs the UM 3DD I ordered in June and rumored to be shipping in early Oct).
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My friends and I demoed merlin, jh13pro, jh16pro, jh10x3, mh334, mh335, c435, cw-L05qd back to back prior to ordering and 2 guys picked jh13pro, 1 picked jh10x3, and one picked mh335. Merlin was unanimously ranked lowest in terms of clarity and transparency.

I was then dragged by the JH gang to the audiologist that next day to enjoy group discount and share shipping... so now I ended up with yet another pair of IEM.... can't say I am not thrilled by it thought biggrin.gif

Fulfillment is just 3 weeks from JH (vs the UM 3DD I ordered in June and rumored to be shipping in early Oct).
Interesting. To me the 3DD sounded very thick though I might call it slightly balanced with a large soundstage. They sound a bit similar to the k3003s in terms of how the sound seems thick to me. Nonetheless, the k3003s are on another level and sound amazing, just not what I'm after. They don't have the broadness ( I'm not too sure what I'm saying either haha) that the Merlins or the miracles or the dba02-mkII has. Still, kkcc, my opinions are only about the Pre freqphase models so I'll pop back in when I hear the post freqphase models and definitely the fitear models. I found the parterres and f111s just a bit lacking in clarity though, contrary to my first impressions of them at the mook headphone festival. So it'll be even more interesting to demo the fitear CIEMs. Any input on fitear's CIEMs compared to their UIEMs?
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Interesting. To me the 3DD sounded very thick though I might call it slightly balanced with a large soundstage. They sound a bit similar to the k3003s in terms of how the sound seems thick to me. Nonetheless, the k3003s are on another level and sound amazing, just not what I'm after. They don't have the broadness ( I'm not too sure what I'm saying either haha) that the Merlins or the miracles or the dba02-mkII has. Still, kkcc, my opinions are only about the Pre freqphase models so I'll pop back in when I hear the post freqphase models and definitely the fitear models. I found the parterres and f111s just a bit lacking in clarity though, contrary to my first impressions of them at the mook headphone festival. So it'll be even more interesting to demo the fitear CIEMs. Any input on fitear's CIEMs compared to their UIEMs?

 

If ound that neither the 3DD not the K3003 sound thick...depends on what you mean by thick. 334 and 335 sound a bit thick for instance.

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Interesting. To me the 3DD sounded very thick though I might call it slightly balanced with a large soundstage. They sound a bit similar to the k3003s in terms of how the sound seems thick to me. Nonetheless, the k3003s are on another level and sound amazing, just not what I'm after. They don't have the broadness ( I'm not too sure what I'm saying either haha) that the Merlins or the miracles or the dba02-mkII has. Still, kkcc, my opinions are only about the Pre freqphase models so I'll pop back in when I hear the post freqphase models and definitely the fitear models. I found the parterres and f111s just a bit lacking in clarity though, contrary to my first impressions of them at the mook headphone festival. So it'll be even more interesting to demo the fitear CIEMs. Any input on fitear's CIEMs compared to their UIEMs?

I only have the tg334 and cannot really comment on the ciem model as the fitear customs I demoed are also in universal demo form. I liked the C435 most followed by mh335 but wasn't really looking to add another pair of IEMs, but at half the fitear prices with the end of summer sales the JH13pro suddenly became very attractive.... that and peer pressure and the fun I had in playing with custom arts did me in.
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@ LookingforIEMs: Wow you're really confusing me now lol. I don't consider the AKG3003 to have a very thick sound. They have a lighter note weight. The treble is airy and brassy. IEMs like the 8A, 334 and SE5 have a thicker sound. I suggest you look up descriptions from the sound glossary and see if that can help you to articulate better. If anything this will help us to help you lol.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/a/describing-sound-a-glossary


Edited by lee730 - 9/26/13 at 2:31am
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Originally Posted by lookingforIEMs View Post


Interesting. To me the 3DD sounded very thick though I might call it slightly balanced with a large soundstage. They sound a bit similar to the k3003s in terms of how the sound seems thick to me. Nonetheless, the k3003s are on another level and sound amazing, just not what I'm after. They don't have the broadness ( I'm not too sure what I'm saying either haha) that the Merlins or the miracles or the dba02-mkII has. Still, kkcc, my opinions are only about the Pre freqphase models so I'll pop back in when I hear the post freqphase models and definitely the fitear models. I found the parterres and f111s just a bit lacking in clarity though, contrary to my first impressions of them at the mook headphone festival. So it'll be even more interesting to demo the fitear CIEMs. Any input on fitear's CIEMs compared to their UIEMs?

 

The SQ of the JH13Fp is way-way so much better than the old JH13, IMHO that is.

Try to audition them at Jaben when there are not many customers around....

I spent almost 2 hours there yesterday evening auditioning the demos JH13Fp, FitEar 333 and 435, but I always go back to the JH13


Edited by akhyar - 9/26/13 at 2:34am
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