JH Audio JH-13 PRO appreciation thread - Page 198

Originally Posted by ok computer

So that's three kids sixteen or under that are getting the 13 pros and one for the 10x3. Sweet. We could make a club. Off topic but this has to be the strangest club/secret society ever: The Sons of Lee Marvin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Originally Posted by daveDerek

hmmm, there may be some truth there
certainly it's hard to match their impact on popular music along with their impact on society at that time.

Originally Posted by ok computer

So that's three kids sixteen or under that are getting the 13 pros and one for the 10x3. Sweet. We could make a club.

Originally Posted by MaoDi

Defs, i may not have the JH13 or doubt even getting them. But i definitely have enough behind me to hold up =) lets start this club...we shall call it...Gah any suggestions?

Originally Posted by Iron_Dreamer

I can understand why you would be skeptical, as those are some of the sacred cows of Head-Fi, for many years. I might not have believed my own statement, had I not actually heard the JH13 before.

But the bottom line is, as far as my experience goes, the JH13 can compete with the best headphones ever made. It is at least as detailed as any headphone I've ever heard (including all those on the list), and it is as close to neutral as any headphone I've ever heard. It has a very extended frequency response, without any harshness, grain, or otherwise unnatural or distracting elements.

The area in which some of those full-sized cans have an advantage is in soundstage size. The JH13 has a very precisely imaged soundstage a la the R10, but it doesn't extend too far past the head. The JH13 has a soundstage size comparable to the L3000, which is good but not remarkable as high-end cans go.

I'm not trying to say the JH13 is better than all the headphones I listed, let alone in every regard, for every person or taste. But I do think it is in the ballpark and competitive with those headphones, and the decision would ultimately come down to one's sonic preferences.

And I think it is logical that such great performance could be attained in an IEM. By removing the complexities of the outer ear, the designer can focus on a much simpler equation to deliver excellent full-spectrum sound. Also, the perception of the sound will likely be much more consistent from user to user, as the varying shapes off different outer ears do not impact the final perceived sound as they do with headphones (or speakers for that matter).

Originally Posted by daveDerek

can't resist....
hmmm, how about 'the-too-young-to-sensibly-buy-customs-club'

Originally Posted by AudioDwebe

The JH13 competes in this league?!?! Really? I mean, that's like the uber-high end of the headphone world, past and present (Omega II's?). Or would that be past and past?

Statements like this make me really...and I do mean REALLY skeptical. It's one of those, "If it sounds too good to be true..." moments where I ask, "What's the catch?"

Originally Posted by gilency

I also have a hard time accepting that kind of statements. I did listen to the universal version of the JH13 and yes they were great, but not really much different than the ES3X and miles behind the Stax phones.
Some of the statements are too flourished and embellished. I would like to read more unbiased, unemotional and mature reviews. No offense intended but it reminds me of mass hysteria.

Originally Posted by AtomikPi

This is why everyone is waiting on HPA's review. At least we can hope his impressions will be unbiased and insightful. I do think it says something when people are selling top tier phones (L3000, HD800, K1000...) because they find the JH13's to be better. For someone trying to make a step up in headphones, spending $1100+ on an item I can't return and can't resell is a very difficult decision to make.
Don't forget that everyone has different tastes. I for one do not even remotely like the O1 or O2.

Originally Posted by gilency

I also have a hard time accepting that kind of statements. I did listen to the universal version of the JH13 and yes they were great, but not really much different than the ES3X and miles behind the Stax phones.
Some of the statements are too flourished and embellished. I would like to read more unbiased, unemotional and mature reviews. No offense intended but it reminds me of mass hysteria.

Originally Posted by gilency

I think Larry is a very knowledgeable guy and really enjoy his comments but to be waiting for his review like the gospel, is absurd also.
No offense Larry. I am skeptical by nature.

Originally Posted by Iron_Dreamer

I'm not exactly sure what statements you refer to. I'd like to think that my statements, while bold, are based on years of experience with and ownership of great headphones, and the desire to provide a reasonable idea of just what the JH13 is capable of.

What aspects do Stax perform miles ahead of the JH13 and ES3x for you? I'm not trying to be critical of your statement, just to appreciate your perspective.



I agree, taking any one review or opinion in exclusivity, or even with too high a weight is not a smart idea.