JH Audio JH-13 PRO appreciation thread - Page 177

Originally Posted by rlanger

Well, it sounds like you're hearing what the rest of us are hearing, but I say , "pics, or you just made that up!"

Originally Posted by sling5s

I have clear ones without any art work. So it doesn't look anything special.
I had requested silver logo but they forgot. But it's ok. The sound and fit is was my main concern.

Originally Posted by boomana

Crackers, jamato. I'm telling you I found the one flaw. You can't eat crackers while listening to them. It's horrible sounding.

So, I'm over my initial crush with the JH13s (I'm lying), and have been listening to both the UE11s and JH13s daily now this past week. I was trying to write up my thoughts, but am too tired tonight, but will hopefully get to that over the next couple days.

Thanks for the review, sling5s. I agree with what you wrote, though I still think the bass heavy R10s are almost perfect (maybe too polite at times, but I love them).

Originally Posted by sling5s

I’m no reviewer but I thought I give my impressions:

After years of headphone experience: I came to the disappointing conclusion that there was no such thing as “one perfect headphone” that did everything well.
I had to accept that different headphones did different things well.

So I had to have one headphone for the midrange (sennheiser HD600), and another for to give me the bass kick for percussion oriented music (denons AH-D7000), and another for the treble sparkle and airiness (grado gs-1000).

Then sennheiser announced the HD800. Hope was rekindled. Could these be the “one perfect headphone” that would do everything perfectly or almost perfectly. All the initial reviews seemed to promise this hope.

Then the HD800 came out. Disappointment. I’m not saying it’s a bad headphone. Not in the least. It had by far the best soundstage, instrument separation, midrange presentation and detail I have heard so far.
But the bass was somewhat anemic (at least for my liking) and the amazing details came at a cost-treble hotness. So again, it did many things well but it did not do everything well. It was not a balanced headphone.

Then came the reviews about the JH13pro. The initial hype and reviews again seemed to promise the perfect headphone (in an IEM).
The conclusion? I believe it is the most perfect headphone I have heard so far.
It has the midrange bloom and both the low bottom bass that only a subwoofer can offer with the bass kick and impact that is uncanny for an IEM. and yes, it has the treble detail to die for. But that is not all. The detail is in all the ranges.
There is bass detail, midrange detail and of course treble detail that all together become a feast for the ears. It’s truly uncanny and unparalleled.

See the HD800 had the detail but it’s treble was accentuated where as the detail on the JH13pro doesn’t come at the expense of anything. In fact, the one word that comes to mind is balance-it’s all perfectly balanced.

Lastly, it’s clean. Other headphones may give you the bass, the midrange and the treble but the JH13pro does it with incredible seed and clarity-it’s very very clean. So clean that compared to the JH13pro, other headphones sound dirty.
In fact, I believe it’s the cleanness that gives the JH13pro such amazing instrument separation.

So am I saying that the JH13pro is the perfect headphone? Well, it’s the most perfect headphone I have heard so far (and yes I have heard and sampled all the greats like the Orpheus and R10s). Who knows, Jerry may come out with a triple treble, triple midrange, and triple bass (9 driver customs) that will set the new standard for what perfect is, but until then, this is as closest it gets for me.

Thank You Jerry and all the staff at JH Audio.

Originally Posted by davidhunternyc

I think this is the third time your comments have been quoted. I think it is because we are all stunned with the JH-13 Pro and that this dark horse has stole some thunder from the HD800. Who would've thought? Anyway, the question I have has to do with the difference between soundstage and headstage. As relatively perfect as the JH-13 Pro is, it seems just by the very nature that it is an IEM, that the presentation of music must be located in the head. It is difficult for me to imagine that a trumpet will really sound like that it is 20 feet on stage in front of us, even with the JH-13 Pro. Instead, sound is located at some point in or around the head, hence headstage instead of soundstage. Soundstage, to me, would be a term used to describe speakers and not headphones. With that said, it seems to me that the HD800 should have a greater "sense" of soundstage (especially being open-backed) than the JH-13 Pro. Since all IEM's sit very close to the cochlea, I think the brain is too smart to be fooled that sound is coming from anywhere else. What I am saying are just concerns and questions more than they are statements. Please weigh in with your opinion.

Originally Posted by sling5s

I’m no reviewer but I thought I give my impressions:
...
Then came the reviews about the JH13pro. The initial hype and reviews again seemed to promise the perfect headphone (in an IEM).
The conclusion? I believe it is the most perfect headphone I have heard so far....
Thank You Jerry and all the staff at JH Audio.

Originally Posted by rlanger

Okay, I'm going to bed and will cry myself to sleep because this Pico sounds so damn good out of my desktop, but the static on my laptop makes it almost unlistenable. And, I bought it to use specifically with my laptop.

Hopefully, one of you brilliant people will have a solution for me by the time I log on again in the morning.

Thanks.

Originally Posted by DJ AudioPhile

Please excuse my ignorance. I thought balanced armatures don't burn in? Or unless the crossover chip is experiencing a burn in.