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Originally Posted by StereoX7521 
It's still an opinion whether I've heard it or not. But it's a pretty clear fact IEM's are not great for soundstage and immersive experience. I doesn't matter how hard I try and close my ears and imaging myself being there I cannot fool my brain. The sound is too closed in to give me that feeling. Maybe the JH13 Pro may be a bit more expansive than top universal IEM's but still it won't fool my brain into thinking I'm at a live concert.
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To paraphrase an aphorism, there are three kinds of people in this world: those who have heard about doing it, those who have watched someone doing it, and those who have actually peed on the electric fence. Maybe it's time you got some real experience, because you sure haven't heard what the rest of us here have. Had someone told me before buying, that the JH13s could exceed the HD800s soundstage and so-called immersive experience, I would have been skeptical. I did not buy them to be my best headphone, just my best IEM. That they are my best headphone is undeniable. Of course it is not the same experience as speakers, but before you pontificate about things you have not yet experienced, why don't you try talking less and learning more?