JH Audio JH-13 PRO appreciation thread - Page 10

1. Could you please use punctuation? I had a hard time deciphering your post.
2. JH (and UE, and Westone, and LW, etc.) all do the initial refits for free, when necessary. It doesn't mean that refits further along the road will be cheap. Westone charges $350, for instance, which -- in my wallet's opinion -- is rather pricey.

I am not a singer or professional, just an audiophile, so some of this may not apply to you.

The heat sensitive tips make the biggest difference when I am listening to music and eating something at the same time, more than with talking. I just don't seem to be as aware of the IEM in my ear with thrusting my jaw and chewing or drinking with them. It's not like it hurts or anything to do that with the full acrylic, but I do become more aware of the customs in my ear doing those things with full acrylic customs.

Secondly, the heat-sensitive tips also affect how much fatigue you get with wearing them for hours and hours at a time with music. With my full acrylic customs I would like to take them out occasionally, like slipping off my shoes every couple or three hours for a rest (not due to pain), but I have left the ES3X in my ears for as long as 8 hours before while listening to music in the afternoon and late evening. Some of it was just a need to get them out of my ears, but also some of that is fatigue due to the sound signature of my cheaper customs. With better sounding customs that listening fatigue may go away and not be due to the tips.

No, I haven't but I fall easy to the hype But I love really love my UE11 which were created by him so that makes me feel confident this is going to be something on a different league.

Be safe: ask them; don't assume. As I mentioned, Westone also does it for free initially, then it becomes $350. One could argue with them that it really shouldn't cost more than $150, but it won't help, and the same goes for all other manufacturers: they won't change their pricing just because you think they're overcharging.

So, better safe than sorry: if you intend to order the JH|13, better ask them first about their warranty and the cost of refits past the initial period.

[Edit:] Once again, HPA, thank you for your feedback!

In 4 years you would be saving for the JH27 Pro!

A very valid point of view. But then, the fact that vinyl doesn't last as long as acrylic shouldn't bother you either.

My EP-630 lasted me four years -- at least -- before I switched from starving student to assistant professor and could afford to replace them. But that's not the point here: the JH|13 cost $1099 ($999 until June 30th), so if I bought them, yes, I'd want to use them for at least five years ($200/year): in the studio, at the gym, everywhere.

Sensaphonics use hard silicone, I believe, not vinyl.


As HPA stated, while his ES3X are more comfy that his full-acrylic customs, the latter are still more comfortable than any of his universal IEMs. So for most people, you're right, it'll make little difference. The only people who are likely to really care are professionals who wear their customs for most of the day, and especially performers whose jaws move a lot, thus altering the shape of their ear canals.

Will you guys wear these at the gym? or doing any kind of cardio work-out? I heard that with universals, the heat and sweats sometimes get into the driver and ruin them after a little while. Is it different with customs?

If custom earphones originally made for singers performing live cannot stand buckets of sweat, then they aren't fit for their job. I've been on stage, and shed as much sweat under the spotlights as ever at the gym.