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post #181 of 189
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Originally Posted by nigeljames View Post
 

 

Yet you have not sold them, bought monoprice cables that are just as good and pocketed the difference!!, interesting... oops said I would not post anymore silly me  ;)

 

Sure I have, I sold every single one I thought I could get my money back on, and kept the ones that wouldn't be worth selling (read: that I would sell for less than 50 bucks, might as well just keep those). It says so right there in my post you quoted. I did sell most of the expensive ones though, and pocketed quite a difference as well.

 

The only pair of ICs I haven't sold in fact are the Cardas, which I could get around 100usd for, because they have small tears around the RCA connectors which would make their selling price plummet.


Edited by elmoe - 5/22/14 at 8:52am
post #182 of 189

I'm going to use my guitar work for reference on this and say the quality of a cable is 10x more influencial on sound than the material used.

 

Jumping from a cheap $10 cable to a $30 thicker, well built one made my guitar sound much better, clearer, more frequencies coming through, more detailed etc. But jumping from a $30 well built cable to any of the $50+ well built cables didn't really do much, if anything to the sound. Maybe a tiny bit more highs were present. I keep the expensive cables bc I already spent the money in them, the extra money I pulled into them also went to better durabikty in the construction and a lifetime warranty on some of them. But if they broke I would go back to the $30 cable that sounded just as good.

 

 

Some players like Jimi Hendrix liked the cheap ass, high impedance $10 cables bc they would roll if highs and fuzz things up. But it wasn't material it was cheap construction.

post #183 of 189
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Originally Posted by Souldriver View Post
 

I'm going to use my guitar work for reference on this and say the quality of a cable is 10x more influencial on sound than the material used.

 

Jumping from a cheap $10 cable to a $30 thicker, well built one made my guitar sound much better, clearer, more frequencies coming through, more detailed etc. But jumping from a $30 well built cable to any of the $50+ well built cables didn't really do much, if anything to the sound. Maybe a tiny bit more highs were present. I keep the expensive cables bc I already spent the money in them, the extra money I pulled into them also went to better durabikty in the construction and a lifetime warranty on some of them. But if they broke I would go back to the $30 cable that sounded just as good.

 

 

Some players like Jimi Hendrix liked the cheap ass, high impedance $10 cables bc they would roll if highs and fuzz things up. But it wasn't material it was cheap construction.

 

Yep, any properly built cable should sound the same as any other properly built cable, regardless or price or materials used. If there's any kind of difference between two cables, you can be sure one of them is faulty.

post #184 of 189
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Originally Posted by elmoe View Post

Yep, any properly built cable should sound the same as any other properly built cable, regardless or price or materials used. If there's any kind of difference between two cables, you can be sure one of them is faulty.
...well there is a length exception. Whatever wire you use is going to have Resistance and Capacitance per length (and inductance), and you can hit a point where your wire is having an additional effect despite being "good" in build quality.

Of course the length of a headphone cable is going to be extremely short relative to these effects, as would most guitar cables (and if you needed a really long guitar cable, you're probably getting excellent construction and materials for multiple reasons).
post #185 of 189
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Originally Posted by superjawes View Post


...well there is a length exception. Whatever wire you use is going to have Resistance and Capacitance per length (and inductance), and you can hit a point where your wire is having an additional effect despite being "good" in build quality.

Of course the length of a headphone cable is going to be extremely short relative to these effects, as would most guitar cables (and if you needed a really long guitar cable, you're probably getting excellent construction and materials for multiple reasons).

 

Yes but I think we're talking about hundreds of feet here, so it's not much of a problem as far as hifi cables are concerned.

post #186 of 189
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Originally Posted by elmoe View Post

Yes but I think we're talking about hundreds of feet here, so it's not much of a problem as far as hifi cables are concerned.
Not "hundreds" of feet if you're talking about an 8 Ohm speaker and small wire (where resistance can add up quickly), but yes, much longer than one should concern himself with here.
post #187 of 189
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Originally Posted by superjawes View Post


Not "hundreds" of feet if you're talking about an 8 Ohm speaker and small wire (where resistance can add up quickly), but yes, much longer than one should concern himself with here.

http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm

 

Scroll down to see the table.

 

For 10/12 AWG it can go up to hundreds of feet, but yes even with smaller wire it shouldn't be much concern.

post #188 of 189
I've seen the table. That's why I said "small wire" wink.gif

With #22 you still get 12 feet on 8 Ohms, which is much more than you need for headphones. Heck, it still gives you some decent distance on speakers as long as you don't have to do any weird routing.

To be clear, I am agreeing with you. I was just trying to point out an actual science reason why a cable could make a difference.
post #189 of 189

Yes yes we are on the same page, just thought I'd post the link for anyone who wants a look.

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