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post #76 of 110
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Originally Posted by Gossling View Post
I was under the impression that slipping foam under the pads increases soundstage as seen here. Were the RX700's you heard modded?

I'm a little concerned about the extreme brightness I've read that the DX1 has. Would software EQ be able to alleviate these problems? Also, is it possible to replace the stock DX1 pads with the velour pads of the DX3?

I've read that the DX3's mids have a certain "cuppiness" that is the DX1 do not. Can anyone else vouch for this statement?
The only mod I did to my RX700 is taking out the felt rings around the drivers to help with the mids/treble.

Also, the cloth on the pads under the DX1's pleather are is similar to the DX3 pads.
post #77 of 110
Not to disagree anyone's choice on amp. Last time my DX3 sounded best was used with a darker sounding old Onkyo receiver (TX SV-525). I don't think DX3 is picky at all, but it needs power.
post #78 of 110
Thanks for the input. Generic question: If I am able to raise the volume of a pair of headphones to an acceptable listening level, is it still possible that it is underpowered? I'm quite certain the answer is yes, but I just want to confirm.
post #79 of 110
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I'm a little concerned about the extreme brightness I've read that the DX1 has. Would software EQ be able to alleviate these problems?
Yes, the DX1 is bright. But with the bass boost EQ turned on, I enjoy it straight out of an iPod. If I hadn't found my DX3 at a cut-rate price, I think I would have been content with the DX1 for awhile.

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Also, is it possible to replace the stock DX1 pads with the velour pads of the DX3?
Not sure, but the DX1 and DX3 are almost identical in every visible respect (save for the metal cups on the DX3). However, I find the DX3 are way more comfortable, largely because of the velour pads.

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I've read that the DX3's mids have a certain "cuppiness" that is the DX1 do not. Can anyone else vouch for this statement?
There is a slight cuppiness to the DX3, but for my music, I don't notice it unless I look/hear closely for it. I find the DX1 have a more open sound (I've referred to them as the KSC-75's big brother), but I still prefer the DX3 overall.
post #80 of 110
How do the DX3's perform to you unamped? Or with a cheapo portable amp? What does the DX3 have over the DX1? Also, would you say your preference of the DX3 over the DX1 could be based partly on the type of music you listen to? How do the two compare with classical music?

Thanks
post #81 of 110
Member Kursah on here has a X-Fi Forte soundcard and prefers the RX700 over the DX3... he had the RX700 first and 'upgraded' to the DX3 and found it a step backwards. Both the DX1 and DX3 need a decent amount of power, without the cheaper can will sound better.
post #82 of 110
I don't completely agree with that. The DX1 is significantly easier to drive than a DX3 imo. It doesn't ever feel downright underpowered from a reasonable portable source (Was listening to it from a friend's Gigabeast)
post #83 of 110
I can drive the DX3 straight from a 5G iPod, but it looses something in the quieter sections and the bass is a bit looser. Volume wise, it maxes out a moderate level. Plenty loud for my tastes on most songs, but just not as loud as some folks may like.

I just have a mini3 and a modest integrated stereo amp, but I don't think those fall into the cheap category.

I think the DX3 has a richer sound. The DX1 is bass-light, to my tastes, and a little bright. The DX3 also has better mids. When it comes to some female vocalists, the DX1 sounds better, though.

I have very little classical music in my collection and my experience listening to this genre is limited. I gave a listen to Yo-Yo Ma playing Piazzolla. Mostly strings (bowed and plucked) and bandoneon. You can definitely hear a cuppiness with the DX3, especially with the bandoneon. Overall, the music sounded like it was being played in a room with low ceilings. I can't say that the DX3 are great with stringed instruments...I just couldn't hear much wood or resin.

The DX1 were bright (maybe too bright) and lively. Bowed instruments didn't have any presence.

I'm listening to the same disc through my stereo (Celestion 2.1 speaker system, circa 1985) and I can tell you the shortcomings I heard through the DX1 and DX3 aren't a fault of the recording. It sounds more open and authentic. Soooo....I guess what I'm saying is that classical music isn't necessarily well served by either of these phones. But I like them just fine for the music I generally listen to.
post #84 of 110
here is my observation. i have had the rx700, rx900, dx1, and dx3.
rx700, 900, and dx1 are ez to drive but like a small amp. the 900 is bassy with recessed mids and highs. the 700 has pronounced mid bass and upper mids, but relatively balanced. the dx1 has very balanced sound, tight fast bass, clean mids and highs. the dx1 is probably the best headphone under $80.

the dx3 needs a strong amp. with a strong amp it will give beautiful highs, mids, and bass. the bass does not go extremely low (like the rx900), but does well. the detail is among the best. it also has fantastic soundstage. but i must stress that the dx3 is a picky beast, and opinions are mixed on it.

let me put it like this

rx700 = the girl next door thats ez to love
rx900 =chick you met with a nice (b)ass , you soon realize theres not much upstairs (mids, highs)
dx1 = the pretty girl who got a phd you should have married, excels all around
dx3 = tempermental supermodel. great if you know how to handle her, not worth the trouble if you dont
post #85 of 110
What mods does this include? Thanks
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here is my observation. i have had the rx700, rx900, dx1, and dx3.
post #86 of 110
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Originally Posted by 1Time View Post
What mods does this include? Thanks
all stock. i have tried a few simple mods like the felt removal and earpad stuffing but nothing made much difference
post #87 of 110
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Originally Posted by ourfpshero View Post
rx700 = the girl next door that ez to love
rx900 =chick you met with a nice (b)ass , you soon realize theres not much upstairs (mids, highs)
dx1 = the pretty girl who got a phd you should have married, excels all around
dx3 = tempermental supermodel. great if you know how to handle her, not worth the trouble if you dont


I have the rx900, dx1 and dx3. The rx900 have been damped, stuffed and de-felted and, as you aptly said, has nice bass but still lacks something in the higher registers.

Both dx are stock. Maybe I'm shallow (and too willing to extend the metaphor), but I hit it off with the supermodel model. The dx1, on the other hand, have a little too much upstairs for my liking.

I think both the rx900 and the dx3 sound markedly better with an amp. The dx1 does okay out of an iPod, with some EQ.
post #88 of 110
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Originally Posted by ourfpshero View Post
rx700 = the girl next door that ez to love
rx900 =chick you met with a nice (b)ass , you soon realize theres not much upstairs (mids, highs)
dx1 = the pretty girl who got a phd you should have married, excels all around
dx3 = tempermental supermodel. great if you know how to handle her, not worth the trouble if you dont
Well put. I've tried all four as well and decided that the DX3 and DX1 are both worth keeping b/c they really are quite different animals. Seems like I'm actually going to marry the girl with the PHD and have an running affair with the supermodel .
post #89 of 110
Hahaha! This thread delivers.

Has anyone here tried the DX3 with an Asus Essence STX yet? I'm looking into getting one of them and then pairing it up with a tube amp down the road. I know the STX doesn't have the best amplification section (have read that it has an adequate DAC portion) but I have to start somewhere. Creative's drivers are ruining my fun because 50% of the time the audio cuts out when I try to switch a headphone and that requires either resetting the sound card to defaults (followed by reconfiguration) or restarting the computer. Big hassle is big. I also would like to stop using that 6.3 to 3.5mm adapter on my HD595 to plug into my sound card. I've a feeling I'm going to break something. Any thoughts are appreciated.
post #90 of 110
It shows that you already own the DX3 in your sig... have you looked under the bed?

Anyway I don't think a STX would amp much more than say a cmoy, penguin amp... headphones people notice are underpowered generally need a pretty decent amp, I say that because all headphones I've heard improve with a little power behind them. People who claim to run fullsized headphones directly from an MP3 player clearly don't know what they sound like from a mains powered desktop amp, even the lowest independence cans sound pretty poor on ipods and the likes.
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