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post #6526 of 6594
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Originally Posted by Lan647 View Post

If you have to tape in a 1500 dollar headphone to make it sound right, then clearly the manufacturer made a mistake..

 

Yeah, absolutely Sennheiser made a big error. However, they also created one of the absolutely best dynamic headphones ever created. So should we be thankful or disgrateful?

 

I look at it as follows:

 

1) It's a pretty benign flaw, that it can be fixed with 15 USD worth of material.

2) It's much easier to remove ringing due to chamber acoustics, than to add something that isn't there in the first place. E.g. create soundstage/imaging in headphones that are lacking, e.g. Audez'e's. Or create bass texture in the overly-distorted HD700. Etc. Etc.

 

However I do not want to start a flame war.

 

Objective evidence exists regarding the chamber acoustics of the HD800 (search for Analixus mod, arnaud etc. for lots and lots of info or check: http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/diy-modification-sennheiser-hd-800-anaxilus-mod) and subjective evidence exists of both ringing and not hearing ringing. It is to my knowledge not possible to remove ringing due to chamber acoustics without either changing the chamber or changing the driver. Neither has happened.

 

Those that hear none, are blessed. More music and less hard feelings. Those that hear it, well, there's a quick fix. redface.gif

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Tassie Devil View Post

I'm perplexed.

 

I thought it was a 3 kHz peak that irritated people so much.  But then maybe it has grown up to 6 kHz!!

 

Me, no peaks in the HD800 causing any worry here.bigsmile_face.gif

 

John

To my knowledge I haven't discussed wether it's a 3 kHz peak or a 6 kHz peak. Don't know why you're quoting me on that! :)

 

However: http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/diy-modification-sennheiser-hd-800-anaxilus-mod

 

Further reading:

Anax 1.0: http://www.head-fi.org/t/577530/hd800-anaxilus-mod

 

All the best,

V

post #6527 of 6594

I really like my HD800 and its one of the earlier ones. I think the SN is in the 600's somewhere. No mods made the HD800 better to my ears without sacrificing something else. The HD800 as it is is my best headphone and sounds great

post #6528 of 6594
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Originally Posted by Lan647 View Post

 

*Paid lots of money for a high-end statement headphone* 

*Listens, hears brightness. Gets graph, shows peak.* 

*Sennheiser fixes the "issue"* 

*I, and other earlier buyers are not offered a replacement* 


I like you, Sennheiser. My Momentum has become one of my most beloved items. But this is not cool,  IMHO. 
 

Unfortunately, the scale of measurement is hardly indicative of anything. My graph does not have the 6khz spike on it visually; but it does have it audibly.

 

In fact, all HD800's have the spike, and the variance in SQ between one S.N to another is very negligible. It's the only small drawback on what is one of the most accurate headphones you can buy; and it's correctable.

post #6529 of 6594
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Originally Posted by rawrster View Post

I really like my HD800 and its one of the earlier ones. I think the SN is in the 600's somewhere. No mods made the HD800 better to my ears without sacrificing something else. The HD800 as it is is my best headphone and sounds great

 

 

^^^^^This^^^^^

post #6530 of 6594

Well, I think that the treble boost  of the hd800 is part of the "exciting sound"

and that taming it too much can make the sound uninvolving; so if you experience some fatigue, it's about finding the right amount of taming (with eq, or what some call "source synergy").

post #6531 of 6594
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Originally Posted by rawrster View Post

I really like my HD800 and its one of the earlier ones. I think the SN is in the 600's somewhere. No mods made the HD800 better to my ears without sacrificing something else. The HD800 as it is is my best headphone and sounds great

 

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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

 

 

^^^^^This^^^^^

Did the both of you try out all of Anax's mods?

post #6532 of 6594

I don't know about rawster, but I have.

post #6533 of 6594

Hmm, the earlier versions weren't "idiot proof" (their words) so you may have to wait a bit longer Preproman.  Try the next version when it comes out.

post #6534 of 6594

I surly will,  If that one sound any better I'm all for it.  I know a guy in Dayton that does the mod.  So I'll wait until he does his.  If it's right, I'll ask him to do mine as well.

post #6535 of 6594

I have as well. I tried it for a week and in the end I removed it. Although around the same time I replaced the pads on my HD800 which made a bigger difference to the sound since my pads were pretty worn out by then.

post #6536 of 6594

Yea, I did as well. I'm probably one of those referenced per "idiot proof".

I can't cut in a straight line to save my life...

 

I'm hoping the RD 2.0 mod will allow me to finally try out the HD800 once again.

post #6537 of 6594

RD 2.0 mod???

post #6538 of 6594
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Originally Posted by Dr.J View Post

RD 2.0 mod???

Anax's Rabid Dog mod.

post #6539 of 6594

I tried the Anax mod (and other ones) as well. I came to same conclusion as paradoxper and preproman. It improves some things at the expense of others. I ended up reverting back to stock form every time.

post #6540 of 6594
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Originally Posted by Shahrose View Post
It improves some things at the expense of others.

But the main motivation, is I to reduce listening fatigue.

So if you experience no fatigue from begin, then I guess that mod is unnecessary.

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