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post #6301 of 6600
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post

i don't think theres a difference, but some people claim newer sennheisers have a bit less treble

My first pair was more pronounced in the treble most noticeably a spike. This second pair has none of the noticeable spike. This pair is over 10xxx and the first was under that. I dont know if ant changes were made or not but at to me this pair is neither bright nor  pronounced. 

post #6302 of 6600

I find the hd800 a bit fatiguing for long listening sessions (my s/n is over 10000).  It might "sound fine" on some recording  but the treble energy is constantly here to "grab" your attention.

On some overcompressed track I downloaded from a DJ on the net, it was like raping your ears.

Recently tried the eq, spl passeq, and got pleasing results (after trying many other eq).

post #6303 of 6600

i have 8300

post #6304 of 6600
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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post

I find the hd800 a bit fatiguing for long listening sessions (my s/n is over 10000).  It might "sound fine" on some recording  but the treble energy is constantly here to "grab" your attention.

On some overcompressed track I downloaded from a DJ on the net, it was like raping your ears.

Recently tried the eq, spl passeq, and got pleasing results (after trying many other eq).

I use a tube amp primarily with the hD800 and an Oppo BDP95 and listen mostly to high quality recordings and can say I dont find any of what your hearing but I dont use MP3 files either. All listening is on CD,SACD,HDCD.

post #6305 of 6600
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Originally Posted by Frank I View Post

I use a tube amp primarily with the hD800 and an Oppo BDP95 and listen mostly to high quality recordings and can say I dont find any of what your hearing but I dont use MP3 files either. All listening is on CD,SACD,HDCD.

The dj mix I  heard is definitely of poor quality , but I  think the hd800 make it worse than it is.

It's definitely more enjoyable when taming the highs with an eq.

Unfortunately, I'm sure it's ok to post the link here.

 

I  have also a ton of lossless music, but sometimes you want to hear "different" things,

not necessarily available in best quality.

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I actually don't have a speficic style of music that I like anymore, right now it's a "mastered properly or not" matter which means I'm kind of forced to listen to older music. Even new recordings in FLAC sound ****ty after a few times. No dynamic range = no real feeling = music gets boring.

post #6307 of 6600
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Even new recordings in FLAC sound ****ty after a few times. No dynamic range = no real feeling = music gets boring.

I agree. But I download most stuff, and when there's a problem with dynamic range for a particular album, I try to get a different version of the same album (release from an other country, 

or a different release date). Now I even don't bother to listen stuff with bad dynamic range : I use the use the dynamic range meter available as a component for foobar,

and I try to avoid anything with a DR below 6 (unless it's something I like enough).  I get also fun with some exceptions that have a DR of 0 (such like pulse demon from merzbow) .

post #6308 of 6600

Sure is sad you guys are missing out on good music because it's not dynamic enough for you.

post #6309 of 6600
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Sure is sad you guys are missing out on good music because it's not dynamic enough for you.

There are exceptions for sure, but usually new music with low dynamic range is also overcompressed and just doesn't sound good.

If you have music you like though, do tell me the names if you can. I'm always looking for new music.

post #6310 of 6600

The very dynamic minded might want to check out vinyl. Most modern vinyl is more dynamic than their CD counterparts. 

 

Either way I quite like Mumford & Sons but their production level is awful. Purity Ring would be another one. 

 

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Originally Posted by MelvinV View Post

There are exceptions for sure, but usually new music with low dynamic range is also overcompressed and just doesn't sound good.

If you have music you like though, do tell me the names if you can. I'm always looking for new music.

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Lately, after experience (very good experience) with other flagship phones, dynamic and stats, I have returned to the HD800s (3 years of ownership) as primary phones.

After tweaking my system slightly to avoid things that could make it extra bright, the HD800s now give me supreme musical enjoyment where I can't stop listening to them.

And this is on strong, brash music (all sorts of rock and pop from the past 5 decades) along with some other types.

The are great for what they don't do:

The HD800s are honest but are not grainy and do not seem to have any artifice. And they don't muddle things at any frequency. They don't pump up the bass. 

They aren't too liquid or syrupy and they aren't too dry. They don't have too-sharp image boundaries--the images blend to the surroundings to just the right amount.

So these are basically the results after a 3 year test, so I think that's significant.

 

I basically don't notice audiophile characteristics like detail, staging, depth, width, definition, warmth, bass depth, silkiness, out-of-head imaging or anything when

I listen, I just feel a great intimacy with the music and groove to it and let the good times roll. I don't find myself thinking that some aspect of the sound could or should be better or that anything is painful. And for me, that's the ultimate test.

 

For what it's worth, I love them.

 

My system is completely CD-based with a neutral sound signature, with no computers or equalization. Amplification is via tube headphone amplification.


Edited by rgs9200m - 1/22/13 at 10:37am
post #6312 of 6600
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Originally Posted by MorbidToaster View Post

The very dynamic minded might want to check out vinyl. Most modern vinyl is more dynamic than their CD counterparts. 

 

Either way I quite like Mumford & Sons but their production level is awful. Purity Ring would be another one. 

 


I'm not necessarily dynamic minded, but from my own experiences most music that lacks dynamic range is also overcompressed nowadays.

Most SACD releases are fine as well. I just can't stand overcompression (or hypercompresion actually), you can hear the distortion in the really loud parts.

 

I like music such as the entire Thriller album except the last three songs, Money for Nothing, Cannonball, What Is Love, Roundabout.

If you guys can recommend anything similar please do so.

post #6313 of 6600
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Originally Posted by rgs9200m View Post

Lately, after experience (very good experience) with other flagship phones, dynamic and stats, I have returned to the HD800s (3 years of ownership) as primary phones.

After tweaking my system slightly to avoid things that could make it extra bright, the HD800s now give me supreme musical enjoyment where I can't stop listening to them.

And this is on strong, brash music (all sorts of rock and pop from the past 5 decades) along with some other types.

The are great for what they don't do:

The HD800s are honest but are not grainy and do not seem to have any artifice. And they don't muddle things at any frequency. They don't pump up the bass. 

They aren't too liquid or syrupy and they aren't too dry. They don't have too-sharp image boundaries--the images blend to the surroundings to just the right amount.

So these are basically the results after a 3 year test, so I think that's significant.

 

I basically don't notice audiophile characteristics like detail, staging, depth, width, definition, warmth, bass depth, silkiness, out-of-head imaging or anything when

I listen, I just feel a great intimacy with the music and groove to it and let the good times roll. I don't find myself thinking that some aspect of the sound could or should be better or that

anything is painful. And for me, that's the ultimate test.

 

For what it's worth, I love them.

 

My system is completely CD-based with a neutral sound signature, with no computers or equalization. Amplification is via tube headphone amplification.

So in the past few months you've passed from LCD3 to HE500 and back to the HD800? Aha, that's kind of like me! That's why I can't live with just one headphone blink.gif

post #6314 of 6600

Yes I have. I have certainly not abandoned the other phones, but I rediscovered the HD800s and now feel guilty about negative comments I made about them over the last few months. I was wrong.

post #6315 of 6600
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Originally Posted by MelvinV View Post

There are exceptions for sure, but usually new music with low dynamic range is also overcompressed and just doesn't sound good.

If you have music you like though, do tell me the names if you can. I'm always looking for new music.

 

Well , in the category of overcompressed music, but that might still be interesting:

  •  I  like "Dopethrone" by Electric Wizard.  It's one of these genre I usually hate  (i.e "doom metal") , but I  found genuine artistic work. 5/5 rating at allmusic, and popular at last.fm
  • Well, it quite popular on last.fm (but not my taste), the album "King Night" from band "Salem" get roughly 100 000 listeners. I think there was some hype regarding the "new" musical genre "witch house".

 

I just listened to the "Dopethrone" album through the hd800, it might sound fine and detailed but I believe it's quite  more fatiguing than listening it through the hd25 II 1, and even with eq.  I  think some of the muddiness of the hd25 II  1 helps to hide the harsh sounds;  this headphone is much more adapted to "modern"/mainstream  music.

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