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post #6196 of 6600
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Originally Posted by BournePerfect View Post

Thing that sucks is that I haven't found really found any headphones that are excellent with the Pumpkins yet-although my (first pair) of T1s were pretty damn good. I'm thinking my incoming TH900s will be excellent, especially now that I own all the reissued albums. But yeah-you need to hear the HD800s and Radiohead sometime. ;)

 

-Daniel

 

try grado rs1i

post #6197 of 6600

Pearl Jam and R.E.M. are phenomenal through the HD800. Radiohead haven't really jumped out as truly exceptional through this headphone. As much as I love this band (saw them live a few months ago) I don't really listen to their music much nowadays. I think I'm kinda burnt out on Radiohead.

post #6198 of 6600

Which genres does the 800 excel in? In which does it fall short in?

post #6199 of 6600

The HD800 is great for all genres imo. Not so good when listening to AM radio though.

post #6200 of 6600

Bought the two Chesky binaural CD;d and listening on the HD800 these are two outstanding binaural recordings. The sound is scary real and the music is exceptionally good. The HD800 really lets these recordings shine.  Highly recommended,

post #6201 of 6600
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Bought the two Chesky binaural CD;d and listening on the HD800 these are two outstanding binaural recordings. The sound is scary real and the music is exceptionally good. The HD800 really lets these recordings shine.  Highly recommended,

Agreed. These binaural albums are freakishly entertaining! And I'm using a DAC/AMP combo that most consider nowhere close to the task of properly driving the HD800s. The Amber Rubarth vocals are outstanding, and so is the rest of the music on the binaural sampler from earlier in 2012.

I'm really enjoying re-listening to some of my older albums - Pink Floyd, Alan Parsons Project, ELO, Foreigner, and lots of others from the 60s to 80s. And don't get me started on some of my classical and folk/country! The HD800s really have re-opened my enjoyment of music. smily_headphones1.gif

Dale
post #6202 of 6600

It nice to see David Chesky still making great recordings. I hope this continues as this is really some of his best work regarding recordings as I have quite a few Chesky Disc and these two surpass all my prior albums on the Chesky label. The HD800 really lets you hear how good they are.

post #6203 of 6600
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post

 

try grado rs1i

I did like them pretty well on my AD2000, which is supposed to be similar. Their haunting ballads actually work really well on the HD800-think Porcelina, Galapogos. It's the hard rockers like Siva, BWBW, Cherub Rock that I find lacking.

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Pearl Jam and R.E.M. are phenomenal through the HD800. Radiohead haven't really jumped out as truly exceptional through this headphone. As much as I love this band (saw them live a few months ago) I don't really listen to their music much nowadays. I think I'm kinda burnt out on Radiohead.

I agree Pearl Jam and REM are also incredible on these. In fact, RH and PJ are the two 'rock' bands I love the most on these-although their stuff is definitely on the softer side of rock, and is easier for the Senn to excel at imo. The Pumpkins-not so much. Automatic for the People is truly remarkable on these headphones-it's uncanny how Stipe and Yorke sound so very similar at times imo. Pearl Jam's slower stuff is truly excellent on these too: Jeremy, Yellow Ledbetter, Given to Fly, Better Man and more are all pretty incredible-assuming you're listening to the remastered/remixed Rearviewmirror versions. The original Ten and VS albums sound pretty inferior here imo.

 

As for Radiohead-yeah you must be burnt out on them or something. ;) As great as REM and PJ sound on the HD800-RH is simply an astounding pairing that is untouched for synergy imo. I'm sure the ZDSE/DP1s' holographic nature have a lot to do with it as well. In fact, I'd argue one hasn't really experienced the best RH has to offer unless they've heard a topflight HD800 rig. Imo of course. ;) Here's hoping my TH900 arriving tomorrow can capture a lot of that synergy with RH-but I doubt it.

 

-Daniel

post #6204 of 6600

That is impressive! I assumed the procedure was irreversible. I would not go so far as to say this would make a significant difference or even a noticeable difference in most cases though. I would do it after everything else has been dealt with. Often that means custom everything, including the amplifier and source. The contradiction here would be that wiring makes less difference with higher quality stuff such as encapsulated PIO capacitors, coil-wound resistors and silver-wound transformers. I always found other things to do than to change the wiring. Not that I would not use silver wire (there's a factory here that can make any diameter from 0.5mm to 20mm out of 4N silver) in lacquer coating and teflon tubes but like I said, there is always something else that would yield a more noticeable difference. 

post #6205 of 6600

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post #6206 of 6600
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Originally Posted by Frank I View Post

It nice to see David Chesky still making great recordings. I hope this continues as this is really some of his best work regarding recordings as I have quite a few Chesky Disc and these two surpass all my prior albums on the Chesky label. The HD800 really lets you hear how good they are.

 

Chesky is superb.  My favorite demo album is the SACD:  http://www.chesky.com/audiophile-vocal-recordings.html

 

Speakers or HD800 - simply wonderful.

 

Frank

post #6207 of 6600
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I would not go so far as to say this would make a significant difference or even a noticeable difference in most cases though. I would do it after everything else has been dealt with. Often that means custom everything, including the amplifier and source.

 

My experience is that wires are critical to the sound.  Even on somewhat mediocre equipment it can sometimes transform the sound and step the quality up a level or so.  I again proved the point a few months ago when a friend bought a low cost integrated amplifier and budget small speakers.  Running from his iPod, I plugged in a metre of the varnished silver wire and replaced the speaker leads with the old PTFE silver from my own speakers.  It was a surprising amount better, clearer, information coming through instead of just muddle.  Mostly friends just have me leave the wire there with them a they don't want their old stuff back in.

 

And as far as a top quality system goes, just 0.5m of low cost stranded copper wire interconnect can ruin a system as that is then the weak link and it's unpleasant character what your listening to.  This happened when a friend had replaced one such interconnect.  He was complaining the system was not sounding right.  I went there, listened, agreed it was not as good as the last time I was there a week earlier.  I had a look around and saw a very low cost fat pair of leads.  Replaced them for the silver ones he's erroneously swapped out and normality was restored and he was happy.

 

Sometimes though, a system does synergies with fat stranded leads.  Another friend with an expensive system has gradually evolved to using Acoustic Zen leads.  They make a ton of fat warm bass which he wouldn't have otherwise.  The 0.71mm varnished silver wire as interconnects are much clearer, faster transients, cleaner, better in every way apart from making nearly no bass at all on his system.

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Completed one side.  Is playing now.

 

It may be a simple solution but it took a few ideas, trials and errors to get there.

 

The next side might be a bit neater.

 

Can't tell at this stage if it sounds any better.  Might be difficult to tell with just one side being done.

 

Can tell that the mechanical noise from bumping the silver leads is a lot less in the upper frequencies.  Lower frequencies may be a little more.  I was rather hoping all the mechanical noise would be attenuated by the somewhat padded connections to the hard plastic of the ear piece.

 

I had to go to this length of fixing as these hard drawn silver wires are quite rigid and strong springs and will rip off those tiny solder tags just about straight away.  And as the leads move, the wire twists inside the PTFE sheath and so the soldered end are stressed one way and another and soon break off.

 

 

 

 

 

 


Edited by Ian S - 1/9/13 at 2:59pm
post #6209 of 6600
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Originally Posted by Ian S View Post

Completed one side.  Is playing now.

 

It may be a simple solution but it took a few ideas, trials and errors to get there.

 

The next side might be a bit neater.

 

Can't tell at this stage if it sound any better.  Might be difficult to tell with just one side being done.

 

Can tell that the mechanical noise from bumping the silver leads is a lot less in the upper frequencies.  Conducted bass may be a little more.

 

I had to go to this length of fixing as these hard drawn silver wires are quite rigid and strong springs and will rip off those tiny solder tags just about straight away.  And as the leads move, the wire twists inside the PTFE sheath and so the soldered end are stressed one way and another and soon break off.

 

 

 

Will a cable this size fit?

 

 

 

Tri Multi-Conductor (equiv. 4x18awg) will fit into a 1/4" diameter hole or 6.35mm at the smallest on one side. 


Edited by preproman - 1/9/13 at 3:04pm
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The hole into the solder tags area, where the original plug socket goes through, is 6mm x 8mm.  The ends are rounded rather than square.
 

 


Edited by Ian S - 1/9/13 at 3:06pm
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