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I have a question about what you guys think about using peachtreee decco 65 with the hd800. Any feed back would be appreciated.

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Originally Posted by Shahrose View Post

 

Although the HD800 are better headphones, I'd recommend the HE500 in your case. They're way more forgiving, and IMO, sound better with lower quality South Asian recordings (which seem to be widely prevalent).

 

The Senns won't begin to sound significantly better without a matching supporting cast, and the O2/ODAC don't fit the bill.

I agree, if you are not planning on an upgrade to the rest of your system, better to go with a lesser phone that can be driven right and sound good.  The HD800 shows what is in the chain painstakingly.  With some of my setups i go with the HD650 or one of my other phones.

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I agree, if you are not planning on an upgrade to the rest of your system, better to go with a lesser phone that can be driven right and sound good.  The HD800 shows what is in the chain painstakingly.  With some of my setups i go with the HD650 or one of my other phones.

 

 

I say go with the 650s / 600s for now.  Build your system up get a good DAC and AMP.  Then get your Flagships at a latter date.

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No no no, i would say just get the HD800. You can upgrade the amp/dac in future.

 

As long as you get a powerful amp, definitely the HD800 can be pushed and producing the sound but not to the optimum only.

 

You could try NFB-10SE. Not bad, more than enough to push the HD800. A bit harsh and bright if your recording is not good.

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I say go with the 650s / 600s for now.  Build your system up get a good DAC and AMP.  Then get your Flagships at a latter date.

i already have the hd650 and denon d2000s... i wanted an he400 which is roughly in the same class as the other two main phones of mine... but then i saw how great the he500 is, so i really wanted that... but then i thought why not go all out and buy the hd800 as it is available locally and won't cost me a lot of shipping and duty etc....

 

 

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Originally Posted by YoengJyh View Post

No no no, i would say just get the HD800. You can upgrade the amp/dac in future.

 

As long as you get a powerful amp, definitely the HD800 can be pushed and producing the sound but not to the optimum only.

 

You could try NFB-10SE. Not bad, more than enough to push the HD800. A bit harsh and bright if your recording is not good.

 

that is what i am thinking too... get the headphones and later think about a great dac/amp combo... all my music is lossless and has been for a while... and audio gd looks a  good choice for a cheaper amp/dac solution for a little while... it could take me 6-8 months to upgrade later on and i am a bit worried that i might not like the brightness of the cans as i am not a treble fan... i only live for mids and sub bass....


Edited by h4mm3r 0f th0r - 12/11/12 at 10:28pm
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I owned the NFB10SE and it was a very good match for the LCD-2 in balanced mode. I moved on from it because the upper mids were dry and grating with the HD650. I didn't own the HD800 at the time, but I suspect it would be a very bad pairing. The HD800 deserves better and you may end up hating its presentation if your ancillary gear isn't up to scratch.

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You could get other good amp if you don't want the NFB-10SE. There are few amps got rave review for HD800 with cheap price like Matrix M-stage?

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Originally Posted by olor1n View Post

I owned the NFB10SE and it was a very good match for the LCD-2 in balanced mode. I moved on from it because the upper mids were dry and grating with the HD650. I didn't own the HD800 at the time, but I suspect it would be a very bad pairing. The HD800 deserves better and you may end up hating its presentation if your ancillary gear isn't up to scratch.

 

 

I agree with olor1n.  If your hardward is not up to snuff.  You might not like the HD800s at all.

post #6009 of 6593

+1 for better dac and/or amp. you headphones are only as good as what's feeding them. everything down the line from your source subtracts from sound quality. While HD 800 don't really subtract, they will not improve anything up stream. IF your dac and amp dont give you a good holographic presentation, with good frequency response, HD800 will only magnify the flaws. 


Edited by Cante Ista - 12/12/12 at 3:50am
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Originally Posted by YoengJyh View Post

You could get other good amp if you don't want the NFB-10SE. There are few amps got rave review for HD800 with cheap price like Matrix M-stage?

yes i heard that the mstage is a good cheaper pairing due to its warm sound which tames the hd800s treble response.... people say that he500 is very much like the hd800 with lesser soundstage and resolution, which also makes he500 a good hifi phine rather than just almost-hifi... odac and mstage might be an okay hifi entry level rig for the hd800s.... my question is that will this setup sound better than an he500 and bifrost/lyr combo? if not then i should not bite out more than i can chew, considering the fact that i was on the moon with cheap 20$ headphones only a couple of years ago and have only spent 5 months with midfi phones like d2000s and hd650s with cheap essence st and e9

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Everyone should try the album: "Sessions from the 17th ward" by Amber Rubarth. It sounds spectacular with the HD 800s. The track "Sneak" in particular really shows of the great soundstage layering and naturalness/clarity of the sound! 

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Originally Posted by h4mm3r 0f th0r View Post

i have a simple querry... i have a budget of about 2k$ which would also include shipping etc..... should i buy something like hd800 with would only leave me a small amount for amp and dac combo, something like o2/odac combo or audio-gd nfb 11.32... or should i go with a lesser headphone like he500 and buy a powerful amp like schiit lyr and a dac etc.... which should i choose? i am interested in music with a lot of flute and violin with these... i have plenty of fun headphones for other purposes... o2/odac are known as good entry level equipment which is very neutral but i doubt that it will mask the brightness of hd800's detailed treble... and also that they are okay with hd800 if not good...

 

My personal take is that the headphones have a much larger effect on the nature of the sound you hear that the electronics, so long as the electronics aren't crap.  So... figure out what are the phones that you like and use the balance of your money to purchase decide electronics. If the electronics doesn't get everything out of the headphone you want, upgrade them when you have the money.

 

IF detailed tremble is a concern though, then the HD800 are likely the wrong headphones for you. No amp with "fully tame" the HD800 without destroying what's great about them. Especially if you go used, there are a variety of ways to go with the HD800. Sure, the best options for the HD800 typically involve $6-8k worth of DAC and amplifier, but that's not required. At the lower end, the system in my study which is a Dragonfly DAC feeding a Headamp GLite I purchased used (combined cost $480) was only incrementally less good (say 30%) that the top systems I listened to, and not a factor of two, and certainly doesn't track against the order of magnitude price difference of top end systems.

 

--Mark

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Originally Posted by verber View Post

 

My personal take is that the headphones have a much larger effect on the nature of the sound you hear that the electronics, so long as the electronics aren't crap.  So... figure out what are the phones that you like and use the balance of your money to purchase decide electronics. If the electronics doesn't get everything out of the headphone you want, upgrade them when you have the money.

 

IF detailed tremble is a concern though, then the HD800 are likely the wrong headphones for you. No amp with "fully tame" the HD800 without destroying what's great about them. Especially if you go used, there are a variety of ways to go with the HD800. Sure, the best options for the HD800 typically involve $6-8k worth of DAC and amplifier, but that's not required. At the lower end, the system in my study which is a Dragonfly DAC feeding a Headamp GLite I purchased used (combined cost $480) was only incrementally less good (say 30%) that the top systems I listened to, and not a factor of two, and certainly doesn't track against the order of magnitude price difference of top end systems.

 

--Mark

 

As they say, the law of diminishing returns is more apparent once you have decent gear. 

 

Personally, I'd go try some of the headphones out before I decide on them either by using the cable co (?) service or going to some stores.

The sound signature of the HD 800's are quite polarizing I find, and the only reliable way of deciding whether it's for you is to try them!

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Originally Posted by Lan647 View Post

Everyone should try the album: "Sessions from the 17th ward" by Amber Rubarth. It sounds spectacular with the HD 800s. The track "Sneak" in particular really shows of the great soundstage layering and naturalness/clarity of the sound! 
Thanks, I love trying out new binaural albums. I got hooked when I first listened to Ottmar Liebert's Up Close.
Edited by Draygonn - 12/12/12 at 7:44pm
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Originally Posted by DairyProduce View Post

 

As they say, the law of diminishing returns is more apparent once you have decent gear. 

 

Personally, I'd go try some of the headphones out before I decide on them either by using the cable co (?) service or going to some stores.

The sound signature of the HD 800's are quite polarizing I find, and the only reliable way of deciding whether it's for you is to try them!

i have no place to test them.... n my country, when i import something then i have to stick with it...i compensate by having an evolving taste in music and sound preference.... if i don,t  go for the mstage then would a lyr be far better?

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