Sennheiser HD800 Appreciation Thread - Page 390  

I would say it'd be appreciably better than the HD600.  Perhaps not "ideal", but not too far from it, and who has that kind of money anyway?  

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Originally Posted by spickerish 


Okay, thanks for the input.
Can't say I get the toilet reference though...

I learned about all this from Muppetface BTW. German toilets have shelf above the water where you are forced to examine all your **** before you flush it. It requires repeated flushings to get all the **** down.

This is the essence of the HD800. I appreciate the HD800s for this reason. But if anything is less than ideal, i.e. bad sushi, bad recordings, it's gonna be a ****ty experience. Some people dig this though. Others do not. And as I just implied, most dig this only if everything upstream is ideal (good chef, good sushi, good health, etc.)

EDIT: I'm not trying to steer you away. You may be the kind of person who likes to examine his own ****. I don't know. It seems doubtful though since I'm sure the Cardas cable is there for a reason with the HD600s.

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Originally Posted by purrin 

 

I learned about all this from Muppetface BTW. German toilets have shelf above the water where you are forced to examine all your **** before you flush it. It requires repeated flushings to get all the **** down.

 

This is the essence of the HD800. I appreciate the HD800s for this reason. But if anything is less than ideal, i.e. bad sushi, bad recordings, it's gonna be a ****ty experience. Some people dig this though. Others do not. And as I just implied, most dig this only if everything upstream is ideal (good chef, good sushi, good health, etc.)

 

EDIT: I'm not trying to steer you away. You may be the kind of person who likes to examine his own ****. I don't know. It seems doubtful though since I'm sure the Cardas cable is there for a reason with the HD600s.

Actually - you're not forced to examine your own ****.

The system is just a courtesy towards people with health problems.

If you don't have any health problems most normal people don't look down in the first place - unless you're the kind of person who likes to examine his own **** - lol.

(btw - how did we ever get this conversation here???)

I can see how this also applies to the HD800 - the information is there if you desire it.

Sometimes the information is good and sometimes the information is something you'd rather not pay attention to.

A large part of it is mental - the human mind sees what it wants to see, and hears what it wants to hear.

It is a common "audiophile curse" to always hunt for flaws while normal people just sit back and enjoy the music.

Only the HD800 thread could spark a conversation on German potty habits Though it still seems on target, since I'll be using my HD800 on my Schiit.

HD800 is like German toilets in another way.  Out of the box it's downright nasty, but if you push the plateau at the top way down, it's as good as any other!

"See he french fired when he should've pizzaed. If you french fry when you're supposed to pizza you're gonna have a bad time..."

It's funny because it actually works.

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Originally Posted by Draygonn 

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Originally Posted by spickerish 

To which extent would the HD800 be an upgrade over the HD600 in my setup?

 

Currently my setup is this: PC--> Corda Cantate DAC/amp --> Sennheiser HD600 w. Cardas.

 

How much would I gain from a Sennheiser HD800, considering the Cantate isn't quite such a high-end DAC/Amp.

 

Personally, I think it's a very significant step up. Later, you can upgrade your equipment and the HD800 will scale as far as you're willing to take them.

After owning all of them for years, I found the HD650 was clearly a step up from the 600 in most technical measures, except neutrality of tone.

...and the gap between the HD800 and 650 is much larger than that between the 650 and 600.

Ditto.

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Originally Posted by spickerish 

You have a unique way of expressing yourself, you do make a point, albeit with a very strange metaphor.

Indeed, there actually was a time not long ago in which I would have dryly responded to your question by posting my measurements (FR, CSD, and HD graphs) of the headphones, succinctly discussed my subjective observations (before measurements were taken), indicated where those observations conflicted with the measurements if at all, described nuances not captured by the measurements, and possibly mentioned a few synergistic components.

But eventually I got sick of the all the grief, the straw man arguments leveled against me ("I don't listen to graphs"), and the "my two cents" responses deconstructing specific elements of my observations.

I find that the poop, chick-with-dick, and boobies metaphors don't rile people up as much - while still allowing me to communicate the essence of what I wanted to convey. 

That being said, this thread is actually one of the better ones on HF. The appreciators of the HD800 are more honest about its flaws than those of other appreciation threads. And this has lead to some very meaningful discussion on how to get the best from the HD800.

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Originally Posted by purrin 

 

Indeed, there actually was a time not long ago in which I would have dryly responded to your question by posting my measurements (FR, CSD, and HD graphs) of the headphones, succinctly discussed my subjective observations (before measurements were taken), indicated where those observations conflicted with the measurements if at all, described nuances not captured by the measurements, and possibly mentioned a few synergistic components.

 

But eventually I got sick of the all the grief, the straw man arguments leveled against me ("I don't listen to graphs"), and the "my two cents" responses deconstructing specific elements of my observations.

 

I find that the poop, chick-with-dick, and boobies metaphors don't rile people up as much - while still allowing me to communicate the essence of what I wanted to convey. 

 

That being said, this thread is actually one of the better ones on HF. The appreciators of the HD800 are more honest about its flaws than those of other appreciation threads. And this has lead to some very meaningful discussion on how to get the best from the HD800.

LOL, I'm both laughing and nodding my head in sad agreement.  I'm also getting horrid, horrid flashbacks of the HD700 thread as you describe this history....

I was wondering about the amping with the HD800. I bought a 50wpc amp for the HE6 but was wondering about if it was safe to try it with the HD800 to connect it straight to the amplifier. Volume won't be an issue since there's a knob and I also have a preamp but wondering if I needed anything like the HE adapter from speakers to 4 pin XLR?

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Originally Posted by rawrster 

I was wondering about the amping with the HD800. I bought a 50wpc amp for the HE6 but was wondering about if it was safe to try it with the HD800 to connect it straight to the amplifier. Volume won't be an issue since there's a knob and I also have a preamp but wondering if I needed anything like the HE adapter from speakers to 4 pin XLR?

Coin toss.  On paper if you're using a preamp I don't see TOO much reason not too.  But the HD800 is a lot easier to break, and if there's any DC on the line or any of the devices decides to throw a click to the amp, the HD800 would be in a bit of trouble. 

My own personal feeling is, if you're going to try it, be sure to use the HD-adapter or some home brewed resistor series.  I've been encouraged by a few folks to try it on my 140w amp....but I'm not that courageous.  The 300ohm impedance helps...but I'm not tempted to try my luck.

FWIW I started using the HE-adapter even with HE-6 just to mitigate loud pops from DAC mode changes etc.