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post #5716 of 6593

Thanks for all the answers.

But from what I've heard changing cables smooths out this or tames that, basically really small changes that change the 'feel' of the headphone to something one would prefer more.

Now the HD800 is the first serious headphone I've ever bought (I had 'gaming' headsets before, neutral ones though) and I compared it to the T1 ,D7000 and HD650. I found D7000s way too bassy. The T1 and HD800 aren't that different but I prefered the more open and detailed sound that the HD800 had so I got the HD800.

Now I do enjoy listening to music (which doesn't happen that often) when I do but I don't have the experience to use vague terms like smoothing out treble and what not.

Perhaps I can find some way to test cables after I get a HDVD800 (or V200 and V800, depends on HDVD800's quality).

post #5717 of 6593
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Originally Posted by MelvinV View Post

Thanks for all the answers.

But from what I've heard changing cables smooths out this or tames that, basically really small changes that change the 'feel' of the headphone to something one would prefer more.

Now the HD800 is the first serious headphone I've ever bought (I had 'gaming' headsets before, neutral ones though) and I compared it to the T1 ,D7000 and HD650. I found D7000s way too bassy. The T1 and HD800 aren't that different but I prefered the more open and detailed sound that the HD800 had so I got the HD800.

Now I do enjoy listening to music (which doesn't happen that often) when I do but I don't have the experience to use vague terms like smoothing out treble and what not.

Perhaps I can find some way to test cables after I get a HDVD800 (or V200 and V800, depends on HDVD800's quality).

 

Honestly, if you're happy with what you have, I wouldn't worry about cables, it's the very last part of the equation or "the cherry on top" of a well established system.   My main gripe about the HD650 cable is that it does hinder the sound of the headphone.  My main gripe about HD800's cable is purely ergonomics.  I may well like the sound of an upgraded cable, but my principal desire to upgrade it comes from being spoiled by a cable that physically handles better.   It's a shame, they got it almost right, and I do suspect durability of studio type abuse was their main goal...and with all that padding I think they nailed it.  But generally if the gauge is too small bass response (or detail at least) is the first thing to suffer....so it would be interesting to see how it changes in that sense.  A general "smoothness" in the treble can't hurt either, of course, and if I get another Q cable, I expect HD800 will react like HE-6 in terms of treble change...just a bit less harsh/granular and more even.  

post #5718 of 6593

Headphones > Source > Amp > Tweaks (Outboard PSUs, etc.) > Cables

 

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Originally Posted by IEMCrazy View Post

 

Honestly, if you're happy with what you have, I wouldn't worry about cables, it's the very last part of the equation or "the cherry on top" of a well established system.   My main gripe about the HD650 cable is that it does hinder the sound of the headphone.  My main gripe about HD800's cable is purely ergonomics.  I may well like the sound of an upgraded cable, but my principal desire to upgrade it comes from being spoiled by a cable that physically handles better.   It's a shame, they got it almost right, and I do suspect durability of studio type abuse was their main goal...and with all that padding I think they nailed it.  But generally if the gauge is too small bass response (or detail at least) is the first thing to suffer....so it would be interesting to see how it changes in that sense.  A general "smoothness" in the treble can't hurt either, of course, and if I get another Q cable, I expect HD800 will react like HE-6 in terms of treble change...just a bit less harsh/granular and more even.  

post #5719 of 6593

My main question for those that have recabled their HD800, is it worth it to get a hardwire recable installation-or are most of the benefits heard with just a regular (not hardwired) cable replacement?

 

-Daniel


Edited by BournePerfect - 10/18/12 at 3:12pm
post #5720 of 6593
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Originally Posted by BournePerfect View Post

My main question for those that have recables their HD800, is it worth it to get a hardwire recable installation-or are most of the benefits heard with just a regular (not hardwired) cable replacement?

 

-Daniel

 

I can't speak for HD800, but I know with HD650 which uses pretty much the same "connector to driver" hairline wire, the benefit was seen with just the main cable (3/4" of wire doesn't seem all that important...especially when it's wire that's directly attached to the voice coil! ) There are plenty of folks that go for it though.  My personal feeling is I wouldn't bother but there's certainly folks like musicman who do prefer getting rid of that bit too. 

post #5721 of 6593
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Originally Posted by BournePerfect View Post

My main question for those that have recables their HD800, is it worth it to get a hardwire recable installation-or are most of the benefits heard with just a regular (not hardwired) cable replacement?

 

-Daniel

I have a HD800 recabled and I compared it to a HD800 hardwired with the same cable I have. The difference was small but noticable. I did not want to loose the flexibility of changing cables hardwiring them so what I did I got the tint cable connecting the connector to the driver replaced with the same wire use in my cable and got almost the same benefit of the hardwired without loosing the flexibility.

 

The main benefit I found was an aparent better efficiency (maybe becuase reduced resistance) and a little better bass but again not huge difference. The change from the SPC stock cable to the OCC Copper cable I am using did make a difference mainly eliminating the harshness at the top and providing better bass.

post #5722 of 6593

Guys read through the comments of this HD 800 review and youll get a good laugh( this guy is on another level of noobness)

http://www.amazon.com/review/R2SCXEUBQPFPKD/ref=cm_cd_pg_pg1?ie=UTF8&asin=B001OTZ8DA&cdForum=Fx1668PM7M4QFZO&cdPage=1&cdThread=Tx1OZZKIJGZZ0ST&store=electronics#wasThisHelpful

tell me who buys a bible on amazon and gives it 1 star? what happen it  missed a chapter rofl 

post #5723 of 6593
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Originally Posted by musicman59 View Post

I have a HD800 recabled and I compared it to a HD800 hardwired with the same cable I have. The difference was small but noticable. I did not want to loose the flexibility of changing cables hardwiring them so what I did I got the tint cable connecting the connector to the driver replaced with the same wire use in my cable and got almost the same benefit of the hardwired without loosing the flexibility.

 

The main benefit I found was an aparent better efficiency (maybe becuase reduced resistance) and a little better bass but again not huge difference. The change from the SPC stock cable to the OCC Copper cable I am using did make a difference mainly eliminating the harshness at the top and providing better bass.

You have a picture of that hard wired HD800?

post #5724 of 6593
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Originally Posted by XxDobermanxX View Post

Guys read through the comments of this HD 800 review and youll get a good laugh( this guy is on another level of noobness)

http://www.amazon.com/review/R2SCXEUBQPFPKD/ref=cm_cd_pg_pg1?ie=UTF8&asin=B001OTZ8DA&cdForum=Fx1668PM7M4QFZO&cdPage=1&cdThread=Tx1OZZKIJGZZ0ST&store=electronics#wasThisHelpful

tell me who buys a bible on amazon and gives it 1 star? what happen it  missed a chapter rofl 


>Reads the review.

>Has the hardest laugh of the day.

>Puts on HD800

>Plays Gangnam Style

cool.gif

post #5725 of 6593
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

You have a picture of that hard wired HD800?

No I don't. They are the personal headphones of Robert from Aphroditecu29.com

post #5726 of 6593

That Zeus he has is good cable but i like to go back to the stock cable now and then just to see how much the difference really is and reaffirm over and over the difference.  I have a pretty resolving set up so it is fairly stark.

post #5727 of 6593
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Originally Posted by XxDobermanxX View Post

Guys read through the comments of this HD 800 review and youll get a good laugh( this guy is on another level of noobness)

http://www.amazon.com/review/R2SCXEUBQPFPKD/ref=cm_cd_pg_pg1?ie=UTF8&asin=B001OTZ8DA&cdForum=Fx1668PM7M4QFZO&cdPage=1&cdThread=Tx1OZZKIJGZZ0ST&store=electronics#wasThisHelpful

tell me who buys a bible on amazon and gives it 1 star? what happen it  missed a chapter rofl 

 

Oh dear....

 

But it was on a Woo! blink.gif  I mean....they did install the tubes, did they not?

 

Eric's response to that may be the most priceless part of all, though biggrin.gif  That's got to be the best political, snickering behind the keyboard corporate reply to a completely incindiary and clueless complaint I've seen.  Sennheiser reps usually play it very stiff, serious, and corporate script-driven.  For a Senn rep to let the snarkiness shine through the reply says a lot about what they were talking about at the water cooler that day bigsmile_face.gif

 

I wonder how may edits it took before hitting submit on the vendor reply was a permissible thing to do? evil_smiley.gif


Edited by IEMCrazy - 10/19/12 at 10:11am
post #5728 of 6593
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Originally Posted by dallan View Post

That Zeus he has is good cable but i like to go back to the stock cable now and then just to see how much the difference really is and reaffirm over and over the difference.  I have a pretty resolving set up so it is fairly stark.


i would like to hear your impressions on the hd800 vs jh13 regarding clarity and treble dallan if you have the time.

im just waiting for them to pop in the FS forums to grab one.soundstage and "air" are my prime interest:).

post #5729 of 6593
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Originally Posted by XxDobermanxX View Post

tell me who buys a bible on amazon and gives it 1 star? what happen it  missed a chapter rofl 
"Doesn't work when I pray and ask for stuff. This book is faulty. It doesn't work when I pray for an Audi R8. I tried to pray for something less expensive and it still doesn't show up in front of me. If people can part seas with prayers then I should be able to at least get shaved ice cream."

Before today I didn't realize trolling Amazon was a thing.
post #5730 of 6593

Really? Read some of the reviews for say...the $400,000 teddy bear or the 10mil watch. 

 

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Originally Posted by Draygonn View Post


"Doesn't work when I pray and ask for stuff. This book is faulty. It doesn't work when I pray for an Audi R8. I tried to pray for something less expensive and it still doesn't show up in front of me. If people can part seas with prayers then I should be able to at least get shaved ice cream."
Before today I didn't realize trolling Amazon was a thing.
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