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I'm thinking the stock cables problem has more to do with it's thin gauge (28ish) more than the materials used. It seems a couple of members had good results with even a pure silver cable-which was also a thicker gauge. Would help to not choke off the bass, I'd imagine.

 

-Daniel

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On the other hand, maybe it's just because I'm spoiled by the ergonomic flexibility and light weight of the Q on my HE-6, but this thing is completely unmanageable.  It knots like crazy, won't hold shape when I try to ravel it for hanging it all on my Woo stand, and the thing springs around like it's made of rubber or silicone....probably because it appears to actually be jacketed in rubber or silicone and wrapped with a wire....

 

I actually have no issue with the stock cable in that regard.

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Originally Posted by BournePerfect View Post

I'm thinking the stock cables problem has more to do with it's thin gauge (28ish) more than the materials used. It seems a couple of members had good results with even a pure silver cable-which was also a thicker gauge. Would help to not choke off the bass, I'd imagine.

 

-Daniel

 

Wow, it's 28awg while being that thick?  That's a lot of jacketing.... With EQ I haven't found bass to be choked off, but if what you say is true, 28awg for a ~10ft cable....I could see how something thicker might work out better.  Interesting.  You shouldn't go inspiring me to make more cable purchases like that.

 

On the other hand the stock is pretty biggrin.gif

 

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I actually have no issue with the stock cable in that regard.

 

Interesting.  I remember someone complaining about Denon stock cables and how they tangled like crazy...I never had a problem with tangling.  But on the HD800 cable, I get it knotting and tangling and simply not wanting to roll into a coil and stay there to hang it.  But it makes sense, it seems like the y-split must be the same type of jacketing used below...which is a rubber/silicone material.  And the whole thing does bend the same way as that kind of shape-holding stuff.

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Anyone tried the new Tellurium Q Listen amp yet? Trying to decide whether to give it a try or wait for the HDVA 600.
post #5705 of 6600
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Originally Posted by IEMCrazy View Post

Interesting.  I remember someone complaining about Denon stock cables and how they tangled like crazy...I never had a problem with tangling.  But on the HD800 cable, I get it knotting and tangling and simply not wanting to roll into a coil and stay there to hang it.  But it makes sense, it seems like the y-split must be the same type of jacketing used below...which is a rubber/silicone material.  And the whole thing does bend the same way as that kind of shape-holding stuff.

 

That's quite odd. I've heard the HD800 you had at a meet and had no issues with it and works the same way as my HD800 cable. The Denon is a completely different story since the sleeve is another material where it kinks a lot. Usually I don't have an issue with tangles since it could be the way that you coil it.

post #5706 of 6600

According to 6 Moons-it's actually a 36awg cord/wire...yeah I definitely thing a thicker gauge could really help at that point!

 

-Daniel

 

edit: My former D2000's stock cord was one of my most hated things in my Headfi journey. A toss up between that and the K70x's gouging      headband bumps...


Edited by BournePerfect - 10/15/12 at 12:27pm
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That's quite odd. I've heard the HD800 you had at a meet and had no issues with it and works the same way as my HD800 cable. The Denon is a completely different story since the sleeve is another material where it kinks a lot. Usually I don't have an issue with tangles since it could be the way that you coil it.

 

 

Yeah I definitely don't think it's pair-specific...I think it's just the materials of the cord.  Try to flex it...it springs back.  I mean it's not horrible it's just mildly annoying. Oddly I don't have issues with the Denon cables at all (Though the y-split does kink on those.)

 

Part of the issue here is just that the cord is longer than I need which makes it more prone to tangle....but the way I coil it apparently must be at issue.  Again it's not an actual problem, just a minor nuissance compared to my Q.  Or my shorter Moon Dragons. But they're a bear in their own way.

 

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According to 6 Moons-it's actually a 36awg cord/wire...yeah I definitely thing a thicker gauge could really help at that point!

 

-Daniel

 

Eeew.  All that bulk and heft for a 4x36awg wire cable?

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I'm having mixed feelings on the stock cable.  Part of me really likes it.  It's aesthetically as nice as any aftermarket, feels nice, and IMO if you're running with an EQ, sounds as good as any aftermarket.  Senn finally shook the curse of the horrible stock cables on this one.

On the other hand, maybe it's just because I'm spoiled by the ergonomic flexibility and light weight of the Q on my HE-6, but this thing is completely unmanageable.  It knots like crazy, won't hold shape when I try to ravel it for hanging it all on my Woo stand, and the thing springs around like it's made of rubber or silicone....probably because it appears to actually be jacketed in rubber or silicone and wrapped with a wire....
I got my aftermarket cable not long ago just for ergonomic reasons. Like you said the stock cable just doesn't listen - if I want to roll it around something then it I should be able to do it. The new cable rolls around a toothpick and is much lighter. Plus I wanted longer distance between y-split and headphone connectors, the stock one was choking me at times.
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According to 6 Moons-it's actually a 36awg cord/wire...yeah I definitely thing a thicker gauge could really help at that point!

 

Not sure if this is entirely correct. The wire seems to be around 28-30 ga on the outside but there's some plastic stuff inside so probably 32 effective.

 

It's definitely not as thick as the K701s stock cable which is probably 28.

post #5710 of 6600

Now that is thick headphone cable.....

 

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Now that is thick headphone cable.....

 

 

Holy cow!

 

Looks like someone wired his mains to the HD800s - lol.

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No doubt overkill, but my infrequent desire for additional heft and body has been solved. Zana Deux (as preamp) feeding a Beta 22 and the HD800 thumps like an incensed gorilla. 

Good, good-I have the chance to try EC Super 7 into a particleman14 B22 build.

 

Might be a couple of weeks until I can listen, but this could give me a sense of the combination/power/sound potential... 

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That's an interesting and timely post as you'll see when you read on below. Before that I'll just say that I'm curious about the W3000ANV's - the person I bought my HD 800 from sold them in favour of a warmer-sounding headphone and was purchasing the W3000ANV around the time of the HD 800 sale.

 

I've recently been finding listening with the HD 800 to be a bit fatiguing again and have been experiencing more ringing in my ears than normal after using the HD 800 a lot in the past few weeks, even at my low-level listening volumes of ~70-75 db. Yesterday I had the insight to resort to something I did a while back but haven't done for a while - EQ. 

 

Armed with my HD 800's frequency response graph and a parametric EQ, I EQ'd my HD 800 to a flat response and the result is much, much easier on my hearing than the stock HD 800 sound. All the piercing highs are gone and there is more bass, and so far I'm finding the overall sound of the EQ'd HD 800 to be a more enjoyably visceral experience in relation to the stock HD 800. I'm finding that I can still using the EQ'd HD 800 use to peer into the smallest details of recordings but I have no compulsion to do so. To me this leads to more listening enjoyment than with the stock HD 800. It doesn't sound treble centric like before; it now sounds more cohesive and very well-balanced. As I now listen to the instrumental rock of Pelican as I type this, I'm satisfied and not wanting for anything else sonically. It's all there.

 

I don't think I want to expose my ears to the levels of treble revealed by the stock HD 800 again. As revealing as it is, to me it seems to be create more pain/fatigue than I want to experience.

 

Pelican ey, nice taste in music :)

Nice to hear the HD800 can sound good with that music genre, although somewhat eq'd.

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I've recently been finding listening with the HD 800 to be a bit fatiguing again and have been experiencing more ringing in my ears than normal after using the HD 800 a lot in the past few weeks, even at my low-level listening volumes of ~70-75 db. Yesterday I had the insight to resort to something I did a while back but haven't done for a while - EQ. 

 

Armed with my HD 800's frequency response graph and a parametric EQ, I EQ'd my HD 800 to a flat response and the result is much, much easier on my hearing than the stock HD 800 sound. All the piercing highs are gone and there is more bass, and so far I'm finding the overall sound of the EQ'd HD 800 to be a more enjoyably visceral experience in relation to the stock HD 800. I'm finding that I can still using the EQ'd HD 800 use to peer into the smallest details of recordings but I have no compulsion to do so. To me this leads to more listening enjoyment than with the stock HD 800. It doesn't sound treble centric like before; it now sounds more cohesive and very well-balanced. As I now listen to the instrumental rock of Pelican as I type this, I'm satisfied and not wanting for anything else sonically. It's all there.

 

I don't think I want to expose my ears to the levels of treble revealed by the stock HD 800 again. As revealing as it is, to me it seems to be create more pain/fatigue than I want to experience.

Yikes! I listen comfortably at ~60db and consider my low level to be ~50db eek.gif. And yes eq does wonders for the HD800 (even after being Anax modded). I tend to use my parametric eq only with poorly mastered recordings though. Then again, my anax modded HD800 out of the Continental isn't  as fatiguing as they used to be.

post #5715 of 6600

Hello folks, I first went to this forum for gaming headphones (MLE thread) and I purchased a few cans. I still game out when I get a chance but I am beginning to listen to music more in my spare time. I recently purchased HD800's and my wife thought I was crazy for spending such a large amount of money just for headphones. I never tried the senn's line but I got my chance when I was in Edmonton this past weekend so I bought them. I am extremely satisfied with my purchase and I been listening to tunes for a few days now(15hrs or so). I am not that great at posting reviews but I must say these phones are very clear and detailed. They have just have the perfect amount of bass for me and are comfortable for long hrs of use. I am very pleased to be a senn's owner and I look forward to hearing comments to further improve my existing setup. Thanks

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