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Originally Posted by Shahrose View Post

One area that the HD800 just can't match the HE6 is bass extension, force and speaker/subwoofer-like presentation. I find that unique to the HE6 when well driven. The LCD-2 sounded like an average headphone in comparison (and everything else I've heard).

 

In terms of morphing with changing amps/sources, the HD800s wins hands down. Yes, the HE6 becomes better with more power and quality, but it doesn't change its signature as radically as the HD800 from setup to setup. I still find the HD800 to be the better of the two in terms of imaging, soundstaging, speed and microdetail. It's not a night and day difference and I think the HE6 sounds more speaker-like and does some aspects of bass better as I mentioned before. Plus, it's more forgiving than the HD800, not scrutinizing and punishing recordings/sources as much. I also find the HE6 keep sounding better and better at higher volumes without getting fatiguing. This is another quality I've not found in any other headphone. (I'm normally a low-volume listener, but the HE6 just makes you want to turn the dial...)

 

I don't know which I'd choose if I could only own one. Probably the HD800, but comfort would play a role in that.

 

 

Good post Shah,

 

Of course the last sentence will always be about ones preference.

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Good post Shah,

 

Of course the last sentence will always be about ones preference.

 

True. For me personally, it's mainly the weight of headphones that determines comfort, along with headband design. Clamping force and pads I almost never have issues with, regardless of the headphone.

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True. For me personally, it's mainly the weight of headphones that determines comfort, along with headband design. Clamping force and pads I almost never have issues with, regardless of the headphone.

 

 

Your right.  In that case the HD-800s win hands down.  The HE-6s are heavy as hell and not as comfy.  

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No doubt overkill, but my infrequent desire for additional heft and body has been solved. Zana Deux (as preamp) feeding a Beta 22 and the HD800 thumps like an incensed gorilla. 

post #5660 of 6594
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Originally Posted by Shahrose View Post

One area that the HD800 just can't match the HE6 is bass extension, force and speaker/subwoofer-like presentation. I find that unique to the HE6 when well driven. The LCD-2 sounded like an average headphone in comparison (and everything else I've heard).

 

In terms of morphing with changing amps/sources, the HD800s wins hands down. Yes, the HE6 becomes better with more power and quality, but it doesn't change its signature as radically as the HD800 from setup to setup. I still find the HD800 to be the better of the two in terms of imaging, soundstaging, speed and microdetail. It's not a night and day difference and I think the HE6 sounds more speaker-like and does some aspects of bass better as I mentioned before. Plus, it's more forgiving than the HD800, not scrutinizing and punishing recordings/sources as much. I also find the HE6 keep sounding better and better at higher volumes without getting fatiguing. This is another quality I've not found in any other headphone. (I'm normally a low-volume listener, but the HE6 just makes you want to turn the dial...)

 

I don't know which I'd choose if I could only own one. Probably the HD800, but comfort would play a role in that.

I was also surprised when the bass via HE6 (driven by a Marantz 2285) extended deeper and was more articulate than my LCD's. This has recently changed though, as the addition of a CSP2+ has wrought surprising, substantial changes to the LCD. I don't find the HE6 very forgiving, but they don't punish like the HD800's. I'm learning for the first that the HD800's can actually really rattle in the low end, but don't find them as articulate as either of the two above. Also, and this is sometimes important, the HD800's demand more focus than either of the two above. The HE6 are lovely, whether I'm in an discerning, evaluative mood or not. My Marantz has started to fizz a little in the left channel (deoxit has not helped so far), so the HD800 will be getting more head time. 

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Doesn't anyone find the HE6s bright like I did, at least with a regular headphone amp (I never tried a speaker amp)?

I just couldn't take them and sold them.

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Not bright at all.  what headphone amp?

post #5663 of 6594

HE6s were  bright and fatiguing on :RSA B52, Pinnacle, Rudistor RP010, Headroom Max. 

I guess all those recommendations for a high-powered speaker amp were true.


Edited by rgs9200m - 10/13/12 at 11:35am
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HE6s were  bright and fatiguing on :RSA B52, Pinnacle, Rudistor RP010, Headroom Max. 

I guess all those recommendations for a high-powered speaker amp were true.

 

 

Those look like some high powered amps there.  I guess it's all in what you prefer.

post #5665 of 6594

I think the HE6 are bright-ish headphones yes, but in a different frequency range compared to the HD800 and to a lesser degree in its respective range.

 

With a good, clean (or synergistic) setup behind them, almost all headphones can sound good or atleast tolerable...to me anyways.

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Originally Posted by rgs9200m View Post

Doesn't anyone find the HE6s bright like I did, at least with a regular headphone amp (I never tried a speaker amp)?
I just couldn't take them and sold them.

Amping HD800 and HE-6 on the same non-headphone amp (HP out for HD800, taps for HE-6, but both feed from the main amp of the PM6004) I find HD800 to be, by far, the more treble happy bright one. EQ'd I could barely tell them apart in most areas however in terms of brightness....so far.

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I think the HE6 are bright-ish headphones yes, but in a different frequency range compared to the HD800 and to a lesser degree in its respective range.

With a good, clean (or synergistic) setup behind them, almost all headphones can sound good or atleast tolerable...to me anyways.

Which frequencies do you feel each is respectively bright?
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I though some might need a break from typing

post #5668 of 6594
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Which frequencies do you feel each is respectively bright?

 

I think it shows in their frequency response graphs for the most part (check out InnerFidelity's). The HE6 are more energetic in the mid to upper treble, while the 800s moreso in the lower treble. That's how I hear it.

 

For me, the bigger difference is in bass quantity. The HE6 just have more, especially in the lowest octaves.

post #5669 of 6594
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Originally Posted by Shahrose View Post

 

I think it shows in their frequency response graphs for the most part (check out InnerFidelity's). The HE6 are more energetic in the mid to upper treble, while the 800s moreso in the lower treble. That's how I hear it.

 

For me, the bigger difference is in bass quantity. The HE6 just have more, especially in the lowest octaves.


That's what I'm hearing so far. The bass is pretty different between the two but all the orthos I've heard have had very good bass esp low bass extension. I think the pairing of the HE6 with the Mjolnir is slightly ahead of the HD800 or it could just be the way the HE6 sounds but either way I now have two excellent headphones and an AD2k looking very neglected on my desk :)

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Well Im officially part of the HD 800 Club, I just purchase a set with the included Amp, so i got the full set for my pc, so far I love the way they sound, I may have to sell some of my other headphones now lol. :)

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