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post #106 of 6600
whats wrong with them? do they still have some veil? soft attack? muffled characteristic with some annoying upper mids occasionally????
post #107 of 6600
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Originally Posted by donlin View Post
Well, I hate to be negative here but after a lot a careful listening today one thing I know for sure is that compared to the advanced raves I am disappointed. They are not clearly the best dynamic phones ever. I can see how someone could think that but others will not. At this moment I am preferring my Denons. Maybe the Denons are euphonic and the 800's neutral, as someone has stated, but right now, the 800's are not doing it for me.

Well this is all POSITIVE to me. I am not crazy about "euphonic" colored presentation. Neutrality is the top quality I look for audio gears.

I think I'm gonna like HD800 a lot. Will see tomorrow.
post #108 of 6600
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Originally Posted by donunus View Post
whats wrong with them? do they still have some veil? soft attack? muffled characteristic with some annoying upper mids occasionally????
The most obvious problem I have is the lightweight bass. I have always preferred phones that some thought have too much bass such as flat pad grados, HD650, Denon 7000, etc. They are not veiled but have a softer attack and less presence than the Denons. There is nothing annoying, they are very smooth but maybe too smooth. I think the arguments may be a new version of the old HD650 vs RS-1 that went on for so long.
post #109 of 6600
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Originally Posted by ast View Post
Well this is all POSITIVE to me. I am not crazy about "euphonic" colored presentation. Neutrality is the top quality I look for audio gears.

I think I'm gonna like HD800 a lot. Will see tomorrow.
That's very possible and I hope you do. My point is that I don't think they are absolutely the best ever as the advanced billing has indicated. They are just one very good phone among others.
post #110 of 6600
Personally,i believe,that if the hd 800 didn't impress their owners from the first listen,it's not a bad thing.

Good headphones should have a balanced and refined sound so they can scale well if you upgrade your equipment(source,cables,amps..)

My opinion is that we should not look for the "wow" factor every time we listen a new headphone.We must be patient and see through the time what the headphone is capable for,when paired with the right equipment.

So for me,if the hd 800's don't have this wow factor is a good sign.I think i'll probably like them a lot.
post #111 of 6600
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Originally Posted by john53 View Post
Personally,i believe,that if the hd 800 didn't impress their owners from the first listen,it's not a bad thing.

Good headphones should have a balanced and refined sound so they can scale well if you upgrade your equipment(source,cables,amps..)

My opinion is that we should not look for the "wow" factor every time we listen a new headphone.We must be patient and see through the time what the headphone is capable for,when paired with the right equipment.

So for me,if the hd 800's don't have this wow factor is a good sign.I think i'll probably like them a lot.
Totally agree, I’ve had WOW equipment in the past. After a week you just wanna throw that piece of gear against the wall.
post #112 of 6600
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Originally Posted by odigg View Post
and whenever I listen to flat studio monitors I always find them unimpressive. The euphonic characteristics of the Denons have colored my expectations of what sound should sound like.
I find my flat studio monitors to be extremly impressive. and these are flat compared to 90% of the markets studio monitors:



Flat isnt an excuse for non-impressive,non-wowing music experience.
Yeah most mid and lowerend studio nearfield monitors arent impressive, but they arent flat either. They are just that, active mid-fi speakers. Measurements of almost every monitor in production are out there from reviews in studio magazines so have a look.


Back to the HD800 i highly doubt it's the pads, this would show in the measurements on the Sennheiser website. Lots of pre-production HD800s got measured already so we can easily do the comparison.
post #113 of 6600
This is making very interesting reading.
post #114 of 6600
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Originally Posted by bizkid View Post
I find my flat studio monitors to be extremely impressive. and these are flat compared to 90% of the markets studio monitors:

But you probably didn't find them impressive at first listening.

It's as you realised how good they really are that you got impressed.

I actually have the baby brothers to yours (the O110D) for location monitoring.

One set of loudspeakers that impressed me sounded horrible on first listening - until I realised what they were telling me about the recording. I had plugged them up with the sound source being the TV - it was horrible - then I said: "that announcer is in a very small room, the acoustics are not good, he is wearing a tie mic. and I can hear chest resonance" - *then* I realised how good they were.
post #115 of 6600
One thing I want to know is how easily they are powered. What amps are you guys using, how loud do you have to make them to drive the HD800 to a strong volume level, and do you feel they are easy or difficult to drive?

Thanks!
post #116 of 6600
Why so few impressions?
post #117 of 6600
I want frequency-response graphs!
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post #118 of 6600
What's the build quality like ?
post #119 of 6600
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Originally Posted by JaZZ View Post
I want frequency-response graphs!
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Have a look at the new issue of "Professional Audio", they got measurements for the HD800 and lots of other headphones.
post #120 of 6600
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Originally Posted by odigg View Post
Will we even know measurement to measurement variations? It'll be impossible to compare graphs if there are variances in measurement since even moving the drivers/headphone a bit on the test machine will result in a different measurement.

It would be very odd for any headphone company to put out a product where there is an audible difference between individual headphones in the same model. Graphs or not, they should sound the same.
Just wanted to mention, my HD580 Jubilees came with a sheet that had the frequency response graph. I always thought it was kind of cool but no skin off of their teeth, they do the measurements anyway, not much more work to print them out or save them to disk.
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