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post #496 of 633

I also compared the USB input to the SPDIF coax on the Stagedac and while they are very close you can definatly detect differences when listening carefully. I personaly prefered the coax as it I thought it was a tiny bit  more detailed, especially in the treble. As you said the USB sounded fuller while the coax is slightly more detailed and brighter. I can easily understand why somebody would prefer one over the other. 

post #497 of 633

I listened to a fast rock track with male vocals in it. I got a shock as I suddenly felt that I don't know the guy anymore at all! The tone is totally wrong and the pace is a tad too slow!

 

I changed from the USB cable back to my Optocoupler toslink cable and the tonal balance is corrected. With my toslink cable the soundstage, imaging, resolution are all a step up over the USB. The only problem about optical is that the sound is a little thin. USB sounds warmer and fuller. It takes time and many different tracks to identify clearly the superiority of one cable other the other. Not sure if the toslink sound is due to the sound signature of Van Den Hul or the general trademark for optical cable. For the time being, the optical input will stay. USB is going back to box.

 

Maybe I will need a USB converter. Might curious to try Wireworld optical cable too =(

post #498 of 633

I've got a Stage DAC and Concerto on order.  Should be here in a couple of weeks.  

 

Originally I was thinking that I might want to disable the DAC's volume pot, so as to have two separate fixed outputs.  That way, I could feed both the Concerto and my Woo WA6SE.  

 

I might still try that, if it doesn't look I will do any damage opening the DAC up; but, then again, if the Concerto/Stage DAC combo is as good sounding and quiet as I've heard, the Woo might eventually be found in the For Sale section here at Head-Fi.

 

I'll be using 2 sources with the Stage DAC, also:  my Marantz CD5003 disc player (coax) and a new Mac Mini with my iTunes library (optical).  If using the Mini as a music server works well for me, the Marantz may soon be on the auction block as well.

post #499 of 633

Disabling the variable output does just that. You don't end up with two fixed outputs.

post #500 of 633

So there's no way to run two separate power amps out of the Stage DAC, then?

post #501 of 633

One with variable volume and the other with fixed volume?
 

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So there's no way to run two separate power amps out of the Stage DAC, then?

post #502 of 633

If I did run two power amps (Meier Concerto and Woo WA6SE), should I keep the StageDAC volume control maxed, and just use the volume controls on each amp to control loudness?

 

If I did that, would the volume output from the StageDAC be the same through both sets of outputs?

post #503 of 633

I guess I've answered my own question; I found this in the StageDAC manual:

 

 

"The fixed output level of the STAGEDAC is 2.2 Vrms. When using the volume controlled connections the output level can be varied from 0 to 2.2 Vrms using the dial on the right front side of the converter.  Volume is increased by clock-wise rotation."

 

So if the StageDACs volume control is set to maximum, both sets of outputs should be putting out the same volume.  Has anyone tried this--that is, connecting two different amps to the unit?

post #504 of 633
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I listened to a fast rock track with male vocals in it. I got a shock as I suddenly felt that I don't know the guy anymore at all! The tone is totally wrong and the pace is a tad too slow!

 

 

 

In theory, the DAC and cable would not changed the tone and pace of music - they just work passively. There should be something wrong in your computer side obviously.

post #505 of 633
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So if the StageDACs volume control is set to maximum, both sets of outputs should be putting out the same volume.  Has anyone tried this--that is, connecting two different amps to the unit?


For the volume, the answer is yes. But if you don't need the volume, you can disable it then both inputs are identical in circuit point of view.

 

 

post #506 of 633
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Originally Posted by uelover View Post

I listened to a fast rock track with male vocals in it. I got a shock as I suddenly felt that I don't know the guy anymore at all! The tone is totally wrong and the pace is a tad too slow!

 

 

 

In theory, the DAC and cable would not changed the tone and pace of music - they just work passively. There should be something wrong in your computer side obviously.



I guess its time to change one beerchug.gif

 

I am not sure what is affecting the differences. Maybe its the USB receiver on StageDAC.

post #507 of 633

 

@Man At Work,

Wrong. See my comment further up. Disabling the variable output also bring a slight improvement in SQ according to the manual.

@ Red jacket, My stagedac is connected to a Concerto and Darkvoice (variable) without problem.

post #508 of 633

 

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@Man At Work,

Wrong. See my comment further up. Disabling the variable output also bring a slight improvement in SQ according to the manual.

@ Red jacket, My stagedac is connected to a Concerto and Darkvoice (variable) without problem.


Thanks for the response.  So, you do have the stageDAC volume control set to max, then, and are using volume controls on both of the amps?

post #509 of 633

That's right.

post #510 of 633

@Red Jacket Mike

How do you disable the StageDac's volume pot? I have the combo on order as well and would like to experiment.

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