iBasso D10 Cobra or Not...

I believe that Q1 has been answered in other threads and the opinion was that D10 is a recent product while Total Bithead is relatively old so D10 wins in virtually all of the departments. Whether the upgrade is "huge" or not can probably only be judged by you, though .

For Q2, the D10 update thread (probably the OP was jamato8, can't remember exactly) did mentioned that D10 = Predator + an upgraded DAC by HPA.

People are interested in D10 because its superb SQ for a great deal, not a fair SQ for a great deal.

None of the opinions are originally but I've spent a lot of time watching threads about D10. Hope this helps.

I'm glad that you like it. Now I'm listening to the PC USB to D10 output to my Lisa and the sound is even better. Maybe you would like to try the topkit mentioned in another thread:

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f105/i...1-71-a-399315/

Search for "topkit" of post written by HiFlight.

Cheers

I don't quite understand the phrase "look to change it up" (English is not my 1st language). So I interpret it means just want to have a change.

In terms of SQ Lisa wins, no doubt. But Lisa is not that portable -- my Lisa weights more than one pound (454 g, if you like) and is bulky. Hence it's transportable rather than portable even though I used to carry the Lisa on my way to my working place and vice versa. Now I don't carry Lisa around because it cannot be charged through USB and one should use the LLP specifically designed for Lisa to reveal its full potential. The LLP is another pound of weight though.

I tried to feed my IMod 4G to the D10 directly and I just felt something is missing. I didn't know what it was but just music is just less full body and not as rick as it used to be. When I use the same source feeding to Lisa a higher quality of sound come back. Lisa do hiss heavily with the ES3X (my holy grail at the moment). However, once the music came, the hissing is partially or heavily masked and I can sincerely tell you that Lisa sounds definitely better.

Then I tried the PC -> USB -> D10 HP out and the PC -> USB -> D10 -> Lisa and the same conclusion is reached every time. In fact last night I was listening to the configuration and suddenly the sound went back because the battery of Lisa was depleted and I was forced to listen to the D10 HP out. The contrast was so huge that I find the D10 dry in comparison. After sometime my ears accustomed to that and no more complain.

D10 has a built-in DAC cost only $275 which is a deal or a steal (when compare to the predator) IMO. But the Lisa (no DAC) + LLP cost nearly $1000 (depends on the model of the Lisa). The Lisa is much bigger than the D10 so it should sound better. Lisa is very famous for its SQ. Check Skylab's thread for amp review in the portable amp forum and you'll find the review of Lisa.

Now I use my Lisa as a home amp and it certainly can combat with quite a few desktop amp in its price range.

I opened the D10 twice. That's not difficult at all. Just use the kit provided to loosen all the screws. Do not pull the pot but push from the optical input side will do. Again one of the post in the thread that I gave you has a detail description. But I can't remember the post number.

I haven't tried any opamp rolling but planing to--need to do some soldering. I need to spend more time with the stock version of the D10 before opamp rolling. Otherwise I can hardly appreciate the upgrade which is one of the major fun of this hobby.

I am new to this and wanted to know if the D10 will be sufficient to power HD 650's.  Any help or suggestions here would be greatly appreciated.

what about K702?

Id love to know how the d10 powers the k70x's!! anyone??