Originally Posted by haloxt
The problem is there hasn't been a trustworthy objective test on cables that anti-cablers and pro-cablers are satisfied with. Such a test would take much time and money, until then all we have is subjective experience, potentially subject to both placebo and nocebo. And I don't believe anyone here understands the full power of placebo, so you guys are being seriously unscientific flinging that label on pro-cablers.
There's nothing wrong with being firmly entrenched in your belief that cables work/don't work, what's wrong is when you accuse pro-cablers of not having the scientific integrity to rule out the effects of placebo. How would you anti-cablers like it if I kept repeating ad infinitum that you guys suffer from nocebo, the inability to hear a difference between cables because you are biased and trying to justify your cheap stock cables?
But to be on topic, the illusion of placebo presupposes a faulty sensory or distorted perception so you're pretty much saying "it's okay for pro-cablers to be stupid because it makes them happy". I'd rather not do that, it's better to just acknowledge pro-cablers hear a difference and anti-cablers (those who have tried) can't hear a difference, that's all, and stop hijacking cable threads mkay anticablers?
The problem with testing is that believers always dismiss the results, no matter what.
No matter how fairly tested, no matter how controlled, no matter how ingenious the method, results are consistently denied.
I'm not a psychologist, but I believe that cognitive dissonance
plays a strong role.
No, it is wrong to be firmly entrenched in the belief that cables don't work. Actually, they do work, and all work about the same. The reason I'm open to testing is because I'm open to the possibility that they change the sound. According to everything I've heard and seen so far, they don't.
But I remain open to the possibility. It is a shame that promoters and manufacturers don't put their vast profits into R&D with results. Funny that they don't, isn't it? They could use the results to make more money. Isn't that why people go into business? And even if this has been done, then where are the patent filings, journal articles and other prior art? Why isn't there any for cables?
Not only has no test been successful, there has been absolutely zero research into the phenomenon by those who profit from it. Why is that?
Try reading the cognitive dissonance article again.
Finally, is it wrong to own a cable and to tell others that you hear no difference? Are you saying that if you buy a cable and hear nothing, that you're obligated to lie and make claims about its sound that you don't hear and don't believe? If anyone asks for an opinion of the cables I own, why shouldn't I tell them the truth? Likewise, should I start lying about my opinion of the K-701, so as not to offend people who enjoy the K-701 and not to start fights in the threads over the K-701?