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post #16 of 44
5/19/09 at 5:51am
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yep, i put down my own good cash on both those phones (and others) and still have them. i absolutely stand by my observations, and am grateful you referenced this thread to reinforce my current post.

i have zero brand loyalty, and always vote with wallet, ears and enjoyment.

i use the hd650 only when i need to be able to hear the door bell, or family members in the background.

true, the aurum cantus v3m could be considered bargain true high end, and being so, completely unfair to compare to these relatively cheap headphones. but i did think it would be interesting to reflect my genuine personal experiences.
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post #17 of 44
5/19/09 at 6:24am
My Q40s are staring at you.

I've listened to DT770s and Q40s, and IMO the Q40s have tons more bass than the DT770s.

Of course when I went out to try the DT770s, I felt that my portapros had more bass than them. Still, the Q40s have epic tons of bass.

Just don't forget to burn them in.

EDIT: oh hay, what amp do you use with those HD 650s anyway?
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post #18 of 44
5/19/09 at 6:29am
I have both the DT770/80 and the HD650's - and with the right amp the bass on the 650's matches the Beyers - so much so that I rarely use the beyers at home (they are great for on the road and hotels!).

But, even with a good tube amp, my home speakers have a fuller bass sound - and there is really no way that cans can compete.

The 650's require an amp with a good synergy to get the best out of them - I find the Beyers far less fussy.
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post #19 of 44
5/19/09 at 6:36am
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[QUOTE=BigTony;5695120]

But, even with a good tube amp, my home speakers have a fuller bass sound - and there is really no way that cans can compete.

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agreed
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post #20 of 44
5/19/09 at 6:52am
You still haven't told us what amp you were using.
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post #21 of 44
5/19/09 at 7:02am
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You still haven't told us what amp you were using.
i did for the phones....an x-can v3
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post #22 of 44
5/19/09 at 8:58am
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Well, it's not the OP's first time in bashing the HD650.
I saw no bashing in this thread, merely his observation.
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post #23 of 44
5/19/09 at 1:54pm
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and the hd800?

just wondering....can it match the bass response of a bookshelf speaker?

does it go lower and deeper more often, and with more impact than the dt770 80?
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post #24 of 44
5/19/09 at 2:13pm
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Originally Posted by iriverdude View Post
My Hi-Fi destroys my headphone setup.
So true here also...
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post #25 of 44
5/19/09 at 2:17pm
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Originally Posted by Exit Pupil View Post
sorry - i meant my dt770 80 ohm.

yep, room acoustics play a big part for speakers. but the hd650 have become an irritating product for me due to their thin weak bass. the 600 is even worse, of course. an amped dt770 80 ohm blows them away, and comes really quite close to the standmount speakers.

and the ribbon tweeters driven by valves easily match these headphones in the top end dept, but with far more air and sparkle.

Just the realities of headfi i guess, which is why many of us have both set ups.
So your judging quality bass in phones, and the DT770 is your reference? No need to continue on in this thread.
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post #26 of 44
5/19/09 at 8:13pm
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So your judging quality bass in phones, and the DT770 is your reference? No need to continue on in this thread.
just love it when folks jump in at the end of a thread with smart comments, but miss the initial points

ummm, no, i was using the hd650 and the v3m as the initial reference actually, and thats why the dt770 stood out. i purchased the hd650 long before the 770. and i wasn't only referring to 'quality' of bass....but quantity and depth! read!
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post #27 of 44
5/20/09 at 9:11am
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So your judging quality bass in phones, and the DT770 is your reference? No need to continue on in this thread.
Nothing wrong with that at all. The DT770 Pro/80s have exceptionally high quality bass (though there may be too much of it for some tastes.) It is extremely fast, tight, and detailed without the slightest trace of muddiness. A recording of an (unamplified) stand-up bass sounds exactly like hearing it in real life.
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post #28 of 44
5/20/09 at 10:24am
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So your judging quality bass in phones, and the DT770 is your reference? No need to continue on in this thread.
In all fairness to yourself, there are many different things that mean something is of "good quality". Obviously there is a clash between yourself and the OP. Whilst I cant particularly say I agree with him about huge quality in the 770, you cant dismiss his ears entirely since you have not heard them
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post #29 of 44
5/20/09 at 3:59pm
sounds to me like you just don't know what quality bass is, altho hd650 isn't good at bass either, but it's miles ahead of the one note blasting 770.
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post #30 of 44
5/23/09 at 11:31am
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sounds to me like you just don't know what quality bass is, altho hd650 isn't good at bass either, but it's miles ahead of the one note blasting 770.
if you find the 770 as 'one note blasting' then i highly recommend you do a proper hearing test. you may have damage in the lower registers.
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